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The SHWoodwind F.O. Guide To Octave Key Problems

Saxophone octave key mechanisms are responsible for more playing problems than any other mechanical aspect of the instrument - and while they can be among the most difficult for a player to diagnose, they can also be among the easiest to fix.

By far the biggest problem is that so few players really understand how octave key mechanisms works - and so this article aims to explain exactly what they do, how they do it and how they can fail.
The modern octave key mech isn't really all that complicated mechanically - but the older a horn is, the more complex the mechanism is likely to the point where some look almost surreal in their design. Mech Tech boxoutThese can be a real challenge, even for a repairer, but once you understand the operating principles behind the octave key mechanism it should be possible to mentally reduce its design and functionality down to something more comprehensible.

This guide is by no means complete. It's taken over four years just to get to this point, and even though it runs to over 75 pages of text, photos and diagrams - and for the time being tends to focus mainly on modern mechs as found on altos, tenors and soprano saxes - it still doesn't cover every problem you might encounter. That in itself ought to give you some idea of the complexity of the subject - but even incomplete it stands as the most comprehensive article on the subject published to date.
As and when time permits I intend to add to it and widen its scope (see Version History), as well as cover many of the more common vintage mechs, but I felt it would be of more use publishing it now rather than waiting until it was finished...if such a point even exists. If nothing else, reading this article should furnish you with the ability to diagnose most octave key mech problems. And even if you still can't figure out what's wrong, you might just be able to work out what isn't wrong...and that's got to be better than staring at your horn and wondering why it won't play.

This first part is devoted to describing the octave key mech, its various parts and showing how and why it works - and if you're going to tinker with the mech you'd, frankly, be bonkers not to at least skim through it beforehand.
The second part - troubleshooting the octave mech - takes you through diagnosing and (hopefully) correcting many of the common problems you might encounter. If you're familiar with the mechanics of the octave key mech or just want to find out why you can't hit certain notes, you might want to skip ahead.

Part One: Understanding The Octave Key Mech

Modern octave key  mech parts Before we get cracking on sorting out your octave key woes, we need to sort out a bit of terminology, and take a close look at how an octave key mech works.
This shot shows a typical modern octave key mech - as fitted to a TJ Signature Custom RAW XS alto.
In its most basic form the mech consists of three major parts: the touchpiece or thumb key, which is the bit you press to make the mech work; the body octave key, which opens for the notes D to G; and the crook (or neck) key, which opens for the notes A and above.
The very first saxes had little more than this - in fact they had completely separate octave keys, so when you wanted to move from octave G to A, you had to release the first octave key and switch to the second. This was a royal pain in the...thumb - and it wasn't long before 'automatic' octave mechs were developed, that did the switching for you.

These early automatic mechs were often pretty crude, fussy and overcomplicated - and usually relied on levers that slid over yet more levers to provide the automation. All very steampunk.
And then, in around 1930, Henri Selmer came up with the swivel arm octave mech - and it's this design (and slight variations thereof) that still dominates today. The most important difference is that the swivel mech is (more or less) powered by leverage - whereas earlier mechs often relied on springs within the mech to do the work.

I've colour-coded the mech to make it easier to see which bit is which - but the main feature is the swivel arm (coloured silver). It pivots on a pin (the swivel pin) fixed to the body key (blue) and connects to the surrounding keywork by means of a pair of rounded pins that fit into corresponding sockets on the keys.
When you press the octave key down (red), power is transmitted to the mech via the connector (light red) at the bottom of the swivel - and depending on what note you're going for, either the body key will open or, via the (green) pin or lifter/shift lever key, the crook key will (yellow).

The beauty of this mech is that it's elegant and simple, reasonably robust and usually quite reliable. That said, it has its problems - most of which are typically due to wear and tear or damage. It also requires a degree of precision in order to work properly, which is why many poorly-made swivel mechs (as found on nearly all Ultra-Cheap horns) can be very problematic. In the worst cases I've seen, almost all of the power transmitted by the octave key is lost in taking up excess free play in the swivel arm (and the connecting pins) - to the point where the body key barely opens, and the crook key not at all (we'll discuss fixes for this later).

Not every manufacturer adopted the Selmer design, and even through to the 1960s there were still a few 'freaky' designs to be seen. Even today it's possible to find horns that don't use a swivel bar mech (Yamaha student horns in particular), though it should be noted that these modern non-swivelling mechs are usually just as efficient (perhaps even more so in some instances).

Octave mech crook key actionLet's have a look at the mech in action.
In this sequence you can see the rise and fall of the crook/neck key, as would take place were you to play any note above octave G. Because the G key foot is down over the body octave key cup, the power transmitted from the depression of the octave key touchpiece is unable to lower the swivel pin - which in turn would normally raise the body octave key.
This causes the power to be sent along the swivel arm which, as its name suggests, swivels on the pin. The touchpiece end goes down and the crook key end goes up - which raises the crook key. When the touchpiece is released it rises under the power of its own spring and in so doing it raises the touchpiece end of the swivel arm which in turn lowers the crook key end. This allows the crook key to close, helped by the closing force of its own spring.

You can see that there's actually not a lot of movement going on. This represents an ideal setup; there's very little free play (from loose/worn or badly regulated action) and almost all of the motion from the touchpiece is transmitted to the crook key. I say almost because there will always be a slight amount of free play in the system otherwise it might perform sluggishly - and there should always be a slight gap between the pin and the ring at the lower end of the crook key when the mechanism is at rest (this is to allow for variable positioning of the crook, as we'll see later).
Octave mech body key actionThe total amount of motion available to the mech is entirely dependent on how far the thumb key is able to move. If you can only press it down a couple of millimetres, then that's pretty much all the movement you'll get at either the crook key pad or the body key pad. If you increase the amount the thumb key can move, you increase the amount the octave key pads can open...assuming the mech is in good order. The distance the thumb key moves is called the 'throw' of the mech.

In this next sequence you can see the body octave key cup in action.
This only comes into play between the middle D and octave G (fake fingerings aside) - because it's only on these notes that the G key is pressed down, which in turn raises the key's foot over the body octave key cup.
Without the downward force from the G key's foot, the power from depressing the octave key touchpiece is now able to bring the swivel pin down which in turn raises the body octave key. Note the action of the swivel pin compared to the first sequence - previously it was static, with just the swivel arm moving; this time the pin rises and falls.

Why this happens is down to a simple balance of power. When a downward force is applied to the touchpiece end of the swivel arm, the force seeks out the path of least resistance. While the G key foot is down it's applying a downward force to the body octave key cup - and as the spring that powers the G key is usually quite hefty it's more force than the octave mech can the power from the touchpiece takes the easier route, which is via the swivel arm to the crook key. But remove that downward force on the body octave key and the power will flow back from the crook key as it closes and the body key will rise with ease.

If you remove all external forces to the octave mech (take the crook off and press the G key down) and then press the octave key down, you may see the body key rise. If it does so it'll be down to friction within the mech or drag from the lubricants on the pivots - but it means that the only key that's free to move in these circumstances is the body key. This, then, is the mech's 'default' action.

Octave mech alternating body and crook keysThe final sequence shows the mech moving between octave A and G.
Because the touchpiece is held down all the movement takes place from the body key upwards. As the G key foot falls it brings down the body key, which in turn raises the swivel pin. The force cannot travel back to raise the touchpiece because it's held down firmly by your thumb - so it has no choice but to travel upwards to the pin...which now rises, and so opens the crook key.

When the G key is pressed down, its foot rises and offers a path of less resistance to the energy now being provided by the downward force of the crook key's spring. The crook key closes, and as it does so brings the swivel arm down, which in turn lowers the swivel pin and raises the body key.

This kind of octave mech is pretty tolerant and will keep on working even when quite worn and out of adjustment - and for the most part all you really need to worry about is that the G key spring is strong enough to do its job - but it still has some vulnerabilities.
Its functionality relies on the transmission of relatively light forces, so anything that impedes the flow of energy up and down the mech will lead to problems. This is why a little wear and tear isn't usually an issue - when things are a little worn they tend to move quite freely. Any hint of friction, though, and it's a very different matter. A slight knock to the mech can really throw things out, too - as you can see in the three sequences, there's really not a great deal of movement going on and if one or more of the component keys gets bent out of alignment it may well mean that the mech won't be able to move enough to raise one or other of the key cups.

By the same token, there's a need for such mechs to be reasonably accurate. Granted, they needn't be all that precise in engineering terms, but a poorly-built mech can throw up all manner of unexpected problems - and while it's the balance of leverages that makes this type of mech work, in a poor-quality mech those leverages can be precisely what stops it from working.

You might well find that your octave mech looks nothing like the one above, but the mechanical principle will be the same. It's essentially a balanced mechanism with three main areas of force or power that have to be taken into account. The first is the force provided by the closing and releasing of the octave key touchpiece. As it's your thumb that presses this key down this is the strongest force applied to the mech. Upon releasing the key, however, the force will only be as strong as the spring which powers it.
The second is the G key foot. When it's up (when you're playing octave G to middle D) it applies no force to the mech - but when it's down it will apply as much force as the spring which holds the G key open is able to provide.
Lastly there's the crook key spring, and although this is a very lightly spring key it will still apply some closing force as well as some resistance to opening.

When troubleshooting an octave key mech you can pretty much disregard the force applied by the touchpiece. Granted, the key must fall and rise with ease otherwise it will cause problems, but in simple terms you can think of this key as being a switch. Press it down and it switches the octave mech on, release it and it switches it off.
It's seldom the root of problems in a modern mech, though in older designs the return force of the touchpiece's spring may have to be set so as to overcome resistance from other springs in the mech.


I mentioned earlier that not every manufacturer adopted the Selmer mech design, and here's an excellent example. It's the mech as fitted to the ubiquitous Yamaha 23 tenor. Yamaha clearly have no problem making use of the Selmer design - they use it on almost all of their horns - so perhaps the 23 was fitted with a different mech because it was either cheaper to make or more robust.
I rather like this mech because it's simple, reliable, sturdy and really rather slick in use. It's also quite tolerant of wear or imbalance in the mechanism - and about the only thing that will cause it to fail is because it's had a knock...and a hefty one at that.
As per the Selmer mech there are three sources of power going into the mech; the touchpiece spring, the G key and the crook key. There's no swivel, just a rather clever extended pin key that pivots on the touchpiece arm.

In terms of design it's quote close to a vintage mech, given that most of them had the body key on a separate pivot. The big difference here is that some thought has gone into the placement of this key, and rather than being shoved off to one side of the mech, the pivot for it is tucked underneath the touchpiece barrel.

In terms of operation, the stub that extends upwards out of the body key (just back from the key cup) is perhaps the most important part. The pin key has two vaguely triangular plates fixed to each end - of which the lower is inverted and slotted to accommodate the body key pin. It's this slot that converts the back-and-forth action of the pin key when the G key is open into an up-and-down motion when the G key is closed.

What I particularly like about this mech is that it shows that there's more than one way 'to skin a cat' - as they say. Had the Selmer mech never been invented, it's quite possible that a mech like this would have been the de facto standard.

So far, so good - but up until now we've had it easy.
The Selmer mech might look complicated, but once you understand its operating principles, it's not so hard to get to grips with - and modern versions of vintage-style mechs are, arguably, even simpler.
But what about the 'real McCoy' - the proper vintage mech...?

Well, some of those older mechs can be extremely complex.
Aside from the three sources of power (the touchpiece, the G key and the crook key), the modern mechs above have no internal springs - it's all done with balanced levers - but before the invention of the swivelling octave mech it was common to have two or three additional springs within the mech to power the keys. It may help to think in terms of the modern mech as being 'passive' and the older mechs as being 'active' - the former relying on power that's supplied from outside the main part of the mech and the latter relying on power supplied by additional springs within the main part of the mech. If you're at all uncertain as to whether the mech on your horn is active or passive, a very simple test is to finger an octave G and then try to move the pin key up and down. If it moves freely with no resistance and only returns to its starting position under its own weight, it's a passive mech. If feels slightly resistant to movement and snaps back smartly into position when you release it, it's an active mech (assuming all the springs are working).
Active mechs have to be very carefully balanced, with each of the three external sources of power being balanced against each other as well as being balanced against any internal springs. These mechs very often depend on a very specific 'off' force from the touchpiece spring.

Vintage Buescher octave key mechHere's a vintage octave key mech as fitted to a Buescher curved soprano sax.
The principle of operation is exactly the same as with the modern mech, but as you can see it's a far more complex arrangement. As with the modern mech there are there three main sources of power - the touchpiece, the G key and the crook key. However, there are also two additional sources of power from the body octave key (which is sprung to open) and the pin key (which is sprung to rise).

If you were to play an octave A, the following would happen.
As you press the touchpiece it would raise the two arms that straddle the mech. Because the G key is open, its foot still rests on the body key's the body key cannot open. At the moment the pin key's lower arm is suspended above the G key's foot, and when the touchpiece arm rises, the pin key's will be free to rise. In order to do so, though, its spring must be strong enough to overcome the closing force of the crook key.
When the touchpiece is released (so as to play a low A), the arms fall under the power of the key's spring - and the upper arm will overcome the opening force of the pin key and bring it down.

If you now play an octave G, this is what happens.
With the G key down the foot will be raised. The first thing that happens is that the stub beneath the pin key arm rises to meet that arm - and this prevents the pin from rising. This 'locks out' the crook key. In so doing, the stub that rests on the body key's arm will rise, thus allowing the body key to open. But it can't yet, because the lower arm of the touchpiece is still holding it down (you can just about see the end of the body key's stub beneath the touchpiece arm).
When the touchpiece is pressed down, the arms rise and allow the body key to open.
When you release the touchpiece to play a low G, the long arm of the touchpiece will fall under the power of the spring - and will bring the body key arm down with it. In order to do so the touchpiece's spring must be strong enough to overcome the opening force of the body key's spring.

When moving between octave A and G the touchpiece key is held open and does nothing - and it's the G key foot that does all the work, with that 'offset T' shaped stub allowing the body and crook keys to work in turn or similarly forcing them to close. It's worth keeping those two terms (allowing and forcing) in mind. When diagnosing octave key problems it's extremely helpful to know what's 'allowed' to work at any particular moment, and what's not.

Boosey soprano octave mechHere's another vintage octave mech, this time on a single-piece straight Boosey soprano.
It contains all the components of the Buescher mech above, but the layout is a little different - most notably the crook key is now housed on the main body tube (as it will be on any single-piece straight soprano, which won't have a separate crook).
Another difference is that there's no distinct pin key - and rather than the crook key being sprung closed, it's now sprung open. This means there's no need for a pin to open the crook key...but there's still a need for a pin to close it, and this function is taken up by the G key foot, and shared with the upper arm of the touchpiece key.

As before, when playing an octave A the touchpiece is pressed down and the arms are raised. The G key foot over the body key prevents it from rising but the crook key is now free to open under the power of its own spring.
Releasing the touchpiece brings the arms down and the upper arm overcomes the crook key's spring and closes it.

When playing an octave G, the G key foot rises and allows the body key to rise under the power of its own spring - but the top part of the foot also rises underneath the crook key and prevents it from opening.
This is a relatively simple mech, and because the various key arms act in a more-or-less up and down fashion, there's less friction involved. However, there's still a need for the springs of the crook and body keys to be balanced against the touchpiece and G key springs.

Conn 6M 'Underslung' octave mechIf these vintage mechs look a bit confusing, how about one that works in reverse?
The shot on the left shows the octave mech as fitted to the Conn 6M alto - and the first thing that's most notable about this mech is that the crook octave key pip is fitted beneath the tube. It's this feature that gives the horn its nickname - the 'Underslung'. If you follow the crook key down from the pad you'll also see that the pin key sits on top of a plate attached to the key arm (this is still technically the ring). In order to open the crook key, the pin must press down onto the plate rather than rise up, as it does on a standard mech. Following the mech down still further and you can see it's a virtual nightmare of tubes and arms - what's known in the trade as 'a whole bunch of gubbins'.
If you have one of these horns and you're having problem with the octave key mech, you'd be well advised to have it looked at by a repairer. Fortunately it's a pretty reliable mech - but when it goes wrong it can be a proper pain to sort it out. That said, the troubleshooting chart (below) will still help you diagnose most of the common problems.

Yanagisawa 992 alto crookIncidentally, you'll often see the mech on the right (as fitted to a Yanagisawa 992 alto) referred to as an underslung mech - and while some of the keywork is situated beneath the crook tube, the octave key pip is still fitted to the it's not a true underslung.
This mech works in exactly the same way as a standard Selmer-type mech - which is worth remembering if you ever have to bend the octave key. It's also worth pointing out that these type of octave keys can be rather tough, and very difficult to bend.

Regulating or balancing a vintage octave mech can be a nightmare, even for a professional repairer. I've been at this job for decades and I still come across mech designs that I've never encountered before - and, frankly, some of them border on the bizarre.
Compared to the modern mech, the vintage one throws a couple more springs into the equation - but it also raises the spectre of friction. All those arms and stubs, sliding against each other - if they're unable to move smoothly they'll bring the whole mech to a grinding halt, and if they're not buffered in some fashion you'll end up with an incredibly noisy mech. Back in the day it was common to use very thin cork to buffer the arms - which was often greased to reduce friction. Felt was often used too - but these days a repairer is more likely to make use of Teflon sheet, which provides resilient, low friction buffering.
There's also a requirement for the various arms and levers to be set at a certain height. For example, if the upper of a pair of arms on a touchpiece key was set too high, it would never be able to bring the pin key down...because its travel would be limited by that of the lower arm. Likewise, if the pin key cops a whack (as they often do) it may become so distorted as to prevent the touchpiece key's lower arm from doing its job properly.
Thus the ultimate nightmare for a repairer is an unfamiliar vintage octave mech that's badly worn and that's taken a bash...and is fitted to a baritone sax.

East German bari sax octave mech Speaking of which, here's a baritone octave mech - as fitted to an East German built horn. When the touchpiece is pressed the default action is to open the crook key (though this might not actually be mounted on the crook...but it'll be pretty close, typically just below the crook socket).
The critical point on this type of mech is where the lever that comes off the crook key contacts the foot of the G key. As the crook key opens, its lever arm comes down over the G key foot. How far down it goes will depend on how far you're able to push the touchpiece down - and just as with the pin key and the ring on a standard mech, there should be a small gap between the G key foot and the crook key lever arm when the mech is in this state. When the G key is operated, its foot rises and lifts the crook key lever arm - which closes the crook key pad and forces the body key open.
A really good way to see what can go wrong with this kind of mech is to poke an obstruction (the back of an old reed etc.) between the G key foot and the crook key lever - and the press the octave key. Because the crook key lever isn't able to drop all the way down, the mech fails - and both octave key pads will open. The same will happen if you push the reed underneath the G key foot to raise it.
And because there's a relationship between the distance the touchpiece goes down and the resting point of the crook key lever, a very common fault is that insufficient buffering on the touchpiece allows the body key to open very slightly when the crook key is fully open. This is very easy to spot - simply press the octave key down (and no other keys) and watch for movement at the body key cup. You should see none at all. Once the octave key is fully pressed down, try pressing it down just a little harder. If there's even a hint of movement on the body key you'll need to increase the buffering beneath the touchpiece.

Modern baritone octave mechThis is a modern bari mech, as fitted to a Chinese copy of a Yamaha baritone.
As you can see, it's a swivel mech - similar to the one fitted to the horn in the first image in this article. However, there are a couple notable differences.
Because of the placement of the octave key pips on a modern baritone, the crook key pip sits more or less dead centre of the mech - while the body key is perched up at the top end. It's very similar to the modern sopranino mech below except that the octave pips are reversed - the body pip(s) sit at the top of the mech and the crook pip sits in the middle.

It's an 'active' mech - aside from the spring on the thumb key there are two springs powering the swivel. The lower spring forces the crook key closed and the upper spring forces the body key open.
This mech features twin body keys - a recent innovation that's supposed to improve the tone and tuning between octave D and G - and there's and additional (flat) spring fitted between the two key cups. This is a balancing mechanism. It's quite fiddly to seat a connected pair of pads without some means of adjusting the relationship between the two key cups, and with the spring mounted on the lower key and its tip resting on a plate connected to the upper key it provides a crude but effective self-regulating mechanism.
There's often a cork fitted above the lower key cup to prevent any bounce in the mechanism causing a clatter. If you have to replace this cork, ensure it's not too thick or it will hold the top key open.

There's also no true pin key. Given that the rise and fall of the pin key determines where the power goes within the mech, it's fair to say that the link between the G key foot and the body key fits the bill - but it's also true to say that this link is merely an extension of the G key foot. Either way, the critical point is where the pin key meets the body key arm.

As to how the mech works - with the G key open (and thus its foot down), pressing the octave key will transmit power along the mech. The pin key is up, thus preventing the top half (blue) of the mech from moving, so the lower end of the swivel is pulled down, and thus pulls down the crook key (yellow). When the G key is closed, its foot rises and allows the pin key to drop. The opening force of the body key spring now comes into play and the key opens. This raises the top end of the swivel which forces the body key to close.

Setting up (or 'balancing') this type of mech can be very tricky. For a start, the sheer size of the mech means that the slightest amount of unwanted free play in the mech will be magnified - so what seems like a little bit of play in, say, the swivel pin will result in perhaps one or two millimetres less movement at the body/crook key pads. Throw in a bit more free play at, say, the swivel arm ends, and there's half a chance that the crook key pad won't open at all when it's meant to.
There are two top tech tips that will help whenever you're fiddling about with a bari mech. The first is to take photos of the spring orientation. The springs are often very lightly tensioned, and if they're dislodged from their cradles it might not always be obvious whether they were set to open or close a key. The second is to check that the twin body key pads are closing properly. Get this right and you can subsequently treat them as a single key.

Sopranino octave mechThis mech differs in that it has no pin key. It's on a sopranino - but the same type of mech can be found on modern single-piece sopranos (those that don't have detachable crooks). The job of raising the crook key is carried out by the top end of the swivel bar, and as per a standard mech as found on an alto or tenor the crook key is sprung closed.
There's also an extra link from the touchpiece to the upper key stack - note that arm (in red) extending out to the right. This connects to the auxiliary B key and comes into use when playing an octave C#. This note has a tendency to be a bit wild when it comes to tuning, and bringing the Aux.B pad down helps to flatten off the sharpness. You'll sometimes find this mechanism fitted to altos and tenors.
As far as its impact on the octave mech goes, it limits the throw of the touchpiece. Once the Aux.B key pad is down, the touchpiece can't go any further - and if the mech is badly worn it might mean that there's not enough throw to make it work.
Fortunately there's nearly always some means of adjusting the link - in this the stub that sits on the touchpiece arm can be moved up and down its own arm, thus allowing you to change the amount of throw in the octave mech. Ideally the two should be balanced so that there's no gap between the touchpiece arm and the Aux.B arm when at rest - but if there's a problem with the mech or it's just not that well made, you might have to settle for a bit of double-action (a gap between the connection of two keys, resulting in a slight clunk when the mechanism is operated).

Note that some mechs on single-piece sopranos/ninos often have no easy means of internal regulation (corks, felts etc.) and are reliant on the thickness of the octave pads for such regulation. In general terms this means both pads should be of identical thickness. If one is thinner than the other, it may lead to unexpected opening of one or other of the pads.

It would be impractical to show all the octave key mechs that have been fitted to horns down the years, which is why it's important to understand the mechanical principles of the mechanism. Once you know what's supposed to happen you can examine an unfamiliar mech and work out what's supposed to do what, and when. At the very least it'll help you to understand why a particular mech isn't working properly, even if it doesn't mean you'll be able to fix it.


Part Two: Troubleshooting The Octave Key Mech

Below you'll find a simple flowchart that will help you to diagnose some of the more common octave key mech problems. It's by no means an exhaustive checklist, and is geared more towards modern alto/tenor mechs rather than vintage/bari ones, but it should cover most eventualities - and with an understanding of how octave mechs work you should be able to apply it to non-standard designs. Many of the problem associated with vintage mechs are decribed in the section on Springing and friction problems - vintage/active/bari mechs.
Snap shot boxoutFollow the directions to the appropriate list of possible causes. Clicking the link on each cause will take you to a more detailed description and a possible solution - and a corresponding link at the end of each solution will bring you back to the chart. Some solutions may require you to skip from one to another, and you'll find related links at the end of each section that will take you back to your starting point. Because it's very easy to get lost I recommend you right-click on related links within a section and open them in a separate browser window.

To make it even more confusing it's sometimes the case that there are several things wrong with the mech and that you'll have to fix one problem before you can tackle another - and if you don't get the sequence right you can end up going round in circles. It may also be the case that a problem can have different symptoms depending on how severe it is. If you can find a 'one shot' solution here that solves your problem then that's great. If it takes a couple of techniques, that's not so bad - but if it starts to look like you might need to do three or more things to your mech to get it working, it's probably time to take it to a repairer.

If you feel you'd like to try carrying out your own repairs (or you have a very pressing need to) please bear in mind that many of the techniques described require a degree of skill and experience - and sometimes specialist tooling. I've tried to keep things as simple as possible - and where possible have favoured the safest method over perhaps the most efficient...but there will still be an element of risk involved.
Finally, it's worth bearing in mind that the three most common problems are sticking pads, bent or binding mechs and bent crook keys.


The Octave Key Mech Troubleshooting Chart

The most common octave key problem is that of the crook/neck key not closing properly because either the crook key is bent or the crook itself is. When playing the horn from top C downwards, the notes will start to break up around G - and it'll be difficult or impossible to play any notes in the lower octave.
If this describes your problem you can go straight to the Crook key bent up or 'pulldown' solution.
Otherwise, follow the chart.


Fit the crook/neck to the instrument.
Does the crook key pad appear to be sitting on the crook octave key pip?

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Finger an octave G (place your fingers in the playing position, without playing) - does the body octave key rise freely?

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Sticky pad
Binding mech
Worn/badly made mech.
Weak, dislodged or broken body key spring (vintage/bari)
Regulation buffer/tube missing
Weak, dislodged or broken crook key spring



Release the octave key - does the body key fall freely and completely

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Binding mech
Worn or squashed pad
Over-strong body key spring (vintage/bari)
Regulation buffer/tube missing
Over-thick buffer beneath pin key
Pin key bent down



When you play notes between middle D and octave G, are they clear and easy to produce?

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Body key not rising enough (hissing).
Weak, dislodged or broken crook key spring
Pad skin sticking to pip when key rises
Leaking octave key pad
Octave key pip blocked
Octave key pip unsoldered or leaking
Crook key opening unexpectedly
G key held open (vintage)
Other leaks on body



Finger an octave A - does the crook key rise?

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Does the pin key rise and fall when you switch between low and octave A?

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When it rises, does the pin make contact with the crook key?

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Crook key bent down
Ring distorted
Worn or badly made mech
Insufficient travel on pin key
Pin key bent down
Broken/short pin key





Release the octave key - does the crook key fall freely and completely?

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Sticky pads

Sticking octave key pads are a major cause of problems with the octave mech, but it's one of the easiest to diagnose and cure.
You'll have noted that one or other of the octave key pads isn't rising when it ought to, and this is because it's glued to the octave key pip by a mixture of dried saliva and whatever residues were left on the pad after manufacture. Because the pads are so small, and the surface of the pip comparatively large, even a small amount of gunge on the pads can lead to a slight hesitation in the key cups rising - often accompanied by a faint ticking sound as the 'glue' gives way.
You can confirm the problem by carefully lifting the pad with a finger. This breaks the 'seal', after which the mech should work normally.
However, you will need to address the problem - and the easiest way to do this is to clean the pad. See the Handy Hints article on dealing with sticky pads for more details.

Burred octave key pipIn some rare cases the octave key cups will rise, but the pad skin remains stuck to the pip. From a mechanical perspective the mech appears to be working, but because the pad skin is blocking the hole the octaves won't come cleanly or even at all.
It's usually a sign of a cheap pad - but even good pads, if prone to excessive stickiness, can go 'baggy'. Cleaning the pad will solve the problem in the short term, but the proper fix is to have the pad replaced.

Sanding the pipSome horns are prone to sticking octave key pads, and in such cases it would be wise to consider replacing the standard leather ones with pads made from other materials. Cork is a popular option, but synthetic pads are even better. You can even make them yourself; see the Handy Hints article on making pads out of Sugru.

Watch out, too, for burrs on the octave key pips. Any sharp edges on the pips will 'grab' at the pad leather, causing it to stick. It will also wear the leather away surprisingly quickly. You can treat the pad for stickiness all you like, but the problem will never go away until the surface of the pip has been smoothed off. You're more likely to find such burrs on new, cheap horns - but this example was taken from a horn that dates back to the 1950s...which means that owner was probably plagued with a sticking pad, and perhaps wondered why the horn needed a new body octave pad every year or so.
If you feel comfortable about having a go at fixing it yourself, you just need to place a strip of fine-grade carborundum paper (minimum 800 grit) between the pad and the pip...grit side against the pip, obviously. Press down gently on the pad as you slowly withdraw the abrasive paper. You'll probably need to repeat the operation a number of times - but if you're not seeing any improvement after half a dozen goes, you'll be better off having a repairer look at it. Don't be tempted to keep on sanding it, or switch to a coarser grade of carborundum paper - you may end up making the top of the pip uneven.

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Binding mech

There are many reasons why an octave mech might bind or be stiff in action, but the most common is that it's had a bit of a knock. It's quite a vulnerable mechanism, and even careless handling of the horn (typically when fitting or removing the crook) can throw it out of line.
The first thing you need to do is test it.
Without the crook fitted, finger an octave G. Release and press the octave key a few times and note the movement of the body octave key (as per the second animated sequence at the start of this article). It should be smooth and swift, and there should not be any movement of the pin key (you might see a little, but just a little).
Now keep the octave key down (still fingering an octave G) and wiggle the pin key up and down. Again, it should move swiftly and smoothly.
Release the octave key and wiggle the pin again - the touchpiece should rise and fall as you do so. Release the G key and wiggle the pin. Finally, with the G key released press and hold the octave key down and press the pin (which has now risen) down - it should open the body key and close the G key.
If there's any hint of binding or stiffness, you should notice it - and if it's severe enough you'll notice that some parts of the mech will move when they're not supposed to. While you're carrying out these checks keep an eye on the key barrels. Do they seem to rise and fall in a wavelike motion? If so then probably means the mech has had a knock and the rod/hinge screw is bent.

Bent octave mech pivotYou can test for bent rod screws in another way. Take a suitable screwdriver, place it in the slot of the mech's main pivot screw and give it a quarter turn anti-clockwise (loosening the screw), followed by the same clockwise (tightening). Keep an eye on the keys mounted on the rod - do they rise and fall or move from side-to-side? If they do then that's a dead give-away that the mech has been damaged. You might notice a little movement from one or other of the keys, but this should be slight - and it usually means that the mech has been lubricated with grease. If you spot significant movement of one or more keys then this may indicate a bent key (so that its barrel is gripping the rod) or a spot of rust. If the rod screw fails to move at all then it's probably rusted into the thread end - and that's not good news.

I don't generally recommend grease as a lube for octave mechs, but some manufacturers use it. With the right kind of grease there shouldn't be any problems - though you might notice that the mech moves a little sluggishly. It should still move smoothly though.
Many cheap horns come with greased octave mechs, and the grease used is bloody awful - it dries out to a horrible, sticky gunge. The fix for this is to dismantle the mech, degrease it, lube it properly and refit it - but there's a nifty get-you-out-of-trouble fix, which is to pop a drop of cigarette lighter fluid at the barrel ends of the individual keys that make up the mech. This will 'rejuvenate' the grease and should restore functionality...for a while, at least. It will also help if you then oil the mech.

Selmer MkVI mechSometimes a knock to the mech won't bend any keys, but it might throw the mech out of alignment - and this often leads to binding. Vintage Selmer mechs, with their C-shaped touchpiece forks, will bind if either the touchpiece key's upper pillar or the main mech's lower pillar are shifted closer together. As the touchpiece is pressed down, bringing the lower pin key down with it - the pin moves further into the fork. On a more modern mech this isn't a problem, as the fork usually has room to spare - but this C-shaped design has very little room for manoeuvre and the pin will jam up against the back of the fork, usually when the touchpiece is about halfway down.
In the shot on the right the mech is at rest, and you can see the clearance between the C fork and the pin - it's about a millimetre. When the octave key is depressed this clearance should either remain the same or diminish slightly. If it disappears completely and you feel a corresponding sponginess in the octave key, it's a fair bet that there's an issue with the alignment of the mech.

If you're lucky you might be able to spot a dent or a small crease around the base of one of the pillars - and obviously this will need to be removed - but there's often no visible sign of damage. The fix for this problem is to lightly tap one of the pillars back a tad, to create a bit of clearance between the fork and the pin. It's not a fix I'd recommend to try yourself but if you're on a gig and the set is about to start, you probably don't have a lot left to lose.
Rough forkFind a pencil, break it in half and throw the pointy bit away. Place the flat end up against the top of one of the pillars (the main mech's lower pillar is the best bet) and lightly - and I mean lightly - tap the other end of the pencil with something suitably solid.

Friction is another common cause of binding, and this can be down to poor choice of buffering material, corks or felts dropping off, misalignment of keys or manufacturing defects (some of which may be more serious than others). One of the less serious defects is roughness on the interconnections. Here you can see a touchpiece key - specifically the fork at the far end of the key, in which the lower pin key sits.
Note those small machining ridges on the upper arm of the fork. Although these aren't ideal they've at least been buffed and lacquered - so they're not so rough that they'll cause the mech to bind. In fact about the only effect they'll have is to make the mech feel a little 'scratchy' - but if they were much worse than this they might lead to binding.
The fix is fairly obvious - remove the ridges with a fine file, then either burnish the inner surface of the fork or smooth it off with fine-grade emery paper.

A short-term fix for friction problems is to pop a drop of oil on the offending part. This won't be a problem on an interconnect like this fork, which typically sits on a pin that's buffered with a plastic tube - but where cork or felt has been used to buffer the connection, the oil may soon dissolve the glue holding it on.

One 'gotcha' to watch out for is a mech that's binding because the pivot screws are too tight. The keywork itself might be in good order, but if a rod/hinge screw has a drunken thread (one that hasn't been cut square on the shaft) it may well distort when the screw is driven home. Point or pivot screws can also be the source of binding - if they're driven too far into the pillars they can, effectively, clamp the key in place. A poorly made rod screw really needs sorting out - typically a new screw will be required - because although it's possible to remedy the situation by backing the screw out a little, there's a good chance that it will work its way back in at a later date, and the mech will bind again. Over-tight point screws will generally only need backing out slightly, but this may make them loose in their pillars - in which case a drop of suitable threadlock is the answer. Loctite 222 or 243 will do the job, with the latter being slightly stronger and more widely available. Don't use anything stronger.
If you think binding screws might be the problem, check out the article on testing the action for more details about rod and point screws - and read through the latter part of the section below on worn mechs, which gives some details about adjusting point screws.

The bottom line on a binding mech is that it usually requires some dismantling, it often requires some specialist tools and techniques and it nearly always means the mech has to be re-balanced once any specific issues have been fixed. In other words, if your mech is binding, let a repairer sort it out.

Related sections:

Bent pin key

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Worn or badly made mech

Wiggling the pin keyAll the moving parts on a horn are prone to wear and tear, but the action on a horn will often keep working way past the time it should have been overhauled.
The octave mech, however, tends to degrade rather more rapidly and can sometimes reach a point where the combined wear in the component parts lead to a complete failure.
Things would have to be pretty bad to get to this point though, and a more likely symptom of a worn mech is that it's noisy in use and that it's no longer able to open the octave key pads high enough to provide sufficient venting.

An easy way to test for wear is to use a similar test as the one use to diagnose a binding mech.
With the crook off the horn, grip the pin key 'twixt forefinger and thumb and lift it up. It will tilt the swivel arm, which in turn will bring down the touchpiece - but before any of that happens, were you able to lift the pin any distance before either the swivel arm moved or the touchpiece dropped? If so, that's what's known as 'lost motion' or 'double action' - the distance a linked key (one that's connected to another) moves before the key it's linked to moves. On an octave mech a single key may well be linked to three or four other keys...and if all of these are worn then by the time you get to the last key in the chain, most of movement you put into the first key has been lost along the way.
Pressing the pin key downIt's the difference between stirring your cup of tea with a spoon or a strip of paper.

Now place a finger over the pin key to hold it down and then press the octave touchpiece down - this will force the body key to rise and will close the G key. But before any of that happens, how far could you move the touchpiece before the body key began to rise?
Holding the touchpieceNow grip the touchpiece and hold it halfway down (it needs to be gripped, not pressed). Give the pin key a bit of a wiggle - and take note of what moves and by how much.
Finally, grip each component key in turn and give it a wiggle - back and forth, side-to-side.

You're bound to see some movement going on - there will always be a little free play in the mech otherwise it's likely to be too stiff in use - and you'll likely see the most amount of movement in the swivel when you hold the touchpiece halfway down and wiggle the pin key, but if any of the other tests show more that a millimetre or two of free play then it's probably safe to say you've got some wear and tear in the mech. Or it might have been built that way.
Cheaper horns, especially ultra-cheap ones, can have very variable mechs. Sometimes they're fine, sometimes not so great - and sometimes they can be completely awful.

Here's a typical example of a not-so-great octave mech. In this instance the mech was built this way - but it's also how an otherwise well-built but badly worn mech might appear. There are at least five points of free play in the mech; going from right to left it has free play at the fork and pin connector off the thumb key, wear in the upper socket of the swivel pin, wear in the central pivot pin, wear in the lower socket of the swivel pin and wear in the key barrels of the swivel mech itself (though this cannot be seen here).
Watch the action at the far right and notice how the thumb key fork appears to bounce at the top of its travel. This is the free play being taken up by the mech. It's barely a millimetre or so, but as we'll soon see it has a knock-on effect.
Worn octave mechThe next point of wear is the upper socket of the swivel pin - though it's quite hard to see skip to the central pivot. If you watch the centre pin you'll see a gap around it that travels from top to bottom as the swivel arm moves up and down. Again, it's only a small gap...but its effects will be added to that of the free play on the thumb key.
Now watch the lower end of the swivel arm, on the left. You can see that as the swivel arm rises there's a delay before it raises the pin key. You can see it even more clearly as the arm comes down - the pin key comes to rest, but the swivel arm continues to drop. It's still not by much, but it's cumulative.

Watching the whole mech in action you can see that the fork off the thumb key drops three or four millimetres before the pin key starts to rise - and at the touchpiece this will translate into about a third of the total throw of the key. That's an awful lot of lost motion, and aside from it making the octave mech feel clunky and unresponsive, it'll also mean that neither octave key pad will open quite as far as it ought to...and in some cases perhaps not at all.

So what can be done about it? From the home tweaker's perspective, not a lot. By far the easiest issue to deal with is the free play between the thumb key fork and the corresponding pin on the swivel mech. Simply closing up the jaws of the fork a tad will remove the free play - but only a tad...if you overdo it, it'll bind. But check the condition of any buffers/tubes first (see below), because the fix might be something as simple as replacing them. The play in the swivel arm ends can sometimes be tweaked by closing up the sockets. If you look at them closely you'll see they have a slot cut into them. By carefully pinching the sockets you can reduce the diameter of the hole - but it's not a terribly neat or long-lasting solution because it makes the sockets tapered.

Broken swivel arm tipA variation on the theme is slotted tips on the swivel bar. These typically fit into a hole cut directly into a key arm. The purpose of the slot is to allow for the tips to be expanded to take up any wear. It's a neat idea, but in practice it tends to be less than satisfactory because the tips are quite weak and the force that gets put through the mech means the holes apply a sort of crimping action to the tips...which closes the slots and requires them to be opened out again.
When they've gone through this cycle a few times they get progressively weaker...and then half of the tip snaps off during the tightening process (typically performed by inserting a tapered blade into the slot). Depending on how and where it breaks it might not affect the working of the mech too much (other than making it a bit loose) least until the point where the other half of the tip breaks off.

I really wouldn't recommend attempting to tighten these tips yourself - leave it to a repairer. If they break them, they'll have to fix them on their own time.
A more long-term fix is to to ream the holes out slightly larger and fit Teflon tubes over the swivel arm tips. Incidentally - if you see one of these tips which looks like the slot has been filled with a silvery-grey material, you can bet your last Rico Royal that a clumsy repairer has busted the tip and stuck it back on with soft solder. I see an awful lot of old Selmers that sport this particular 'fix'. It works though - it's just not an especially neat repair.

Dealing with play in the central pin is generally much harder. In the shot above you can see that there's a slot cut into the pin - just like the slots on the swivel arm tips. It works on exactly the same principle - you insert a tool into the slot and splay out the two sides of the pin. However, unlike the ball-like shape of the swivel arm tips, this pin is splaying the sides out makes it tapered. As such it's a bit like stuffing a beermat under the leg of a wobbly works, after a fashion, but it's not a reliable long-term fix. And, just as with the swivel arm tips, there's a chance the pin might break in two during the operation. In short, it's a just best left to a repairer.

In the above instance a proper repair would typically involve swedging the key barrels to remove any free play in the main pivot, and Teflon sleeves fitted to the central pin and the swivel arm ends. This will mean having to either ream out the socket holes to fit, or reducing the diameter of the pins...both of which methods will require specialist tools. Thereafter, any wear at these points can be dealt with by replacing the sleeves. For a horn where originality is required to be maintained, the repair is likely to be rather more complex.

Keep an eye open for any missing or worn/damaged buffers (strips of cork or felt, or plastic tube fitted over pins). A missing or worn buffer will translate into free play in the mech, and rather than signalling an appointment with a repairer to have the mech serviced, it may just need a bit of cork or a piece of tubing.
ForksAlso, take note of the shape of any forks. The arms should run parallel to each other and the pin that sits between them should, with its buffer fitted, be at least a reasonably close fit no matter where it sits along the length of the fork. If the arms aren't parallel then the fit of the pin will vary depending on where it is in the fork, and this will lead to lost motion at certain points during the touchpiece key's operation and similarly less movement of the pin key.

Here you can see three forks as fitted to a typical thumb key. The top fork is spot on - the arms are parallel, and no matter where the pin sits it's always the same distance from the arms (the faded pin showing its position when the touchpiece is down).
The middle fork has been opened out and the arms are no longer parallel. When the touchpiece is in the down position you can see that the pin is a good fit - but when the touchpiece is raised there's now a larger gap between the pin and arms. This will lead to lost motion when the touchpiece is will need to take up that gap before the upper arm of the fork contacts the pin and starts to bring it down.
The lower fork has been compressed at its end, and the effects are the reverse of the opened out fork. In the up position the pin fits nicely between the arms, but in the down position it's a much looser fit. This will lead to lost motion on the upstroke of the thumb key.

And while we're discussing the thumb key, a good place to look for wear and tear is where the key is suspended between its pillars.
A spot of wear here is unlikely to cause problems with note production, but it will make the octave mech feel imprecise and clunky - and it may also make it noisy. It's very easy to test for wear; simply grip one end of the key and give it a wiggle. Try to move the key from side-to-side as well as back and forth - and repeat the test at the other end of the key for good measure. There should be no movement at all - a key properly mounted between point screws should only be free to move up and down.
Wiggling the thumb keyThere are exceptions though. Some modern Selmers use a sprung piston inside the key barrel - the idea being that the springs automatically take up any free play. And they do, but the design means the key can never be as snug a fit as one mounted on proper point screws. That said, the movement you might be able to detect should still only be barely detectable. Those of you with older Selmers (MkVI etc.) will be delighted to hear that you have proper point screws fitted.

Dealing with any wear can be difficult for the home tweaker as it typically requires specialist tools and techniques, but a quick peek at the screw(s) holding the key in place will show you whether there's anything you can tweak.
There are two ways this key can be fitted to a horn - either with a single rod or hinge screw that runs right through the key's barrel, or by a pair of opposing point or pivot screws. If you're not sure how your thumb key is mounted, take a look at each of the pillars in turns. If they both have slotted screw heads in them then the key is mounted on point screws - if only one pillar shows a slotted screw head, the key is mounted on a rod screw.
In the latter case you're a bit stuffed...taking up wear in a rod screw mounted key is a job for a professional, but if point screws are used there's half a chance you might be able to take up the play by carefully tightening up each of the screws in turn.
Whether or not this'll work depends on how much wear there is, what type of point screw is fitted and whether or not they'll actually move. There's certainly no harm in trying provided you follow a few simple rules.

Adjusting a point screwUse a screwdriver that fits the slot - not too wide, not too short. Note the position of the slot(s) before you start - if things go wrong you might need to return the screws to this position. Turn one screw just a quarter of a turn clockwise to tighten it and check that the thumb key still moves freely before turning the other screw. If the key stiffens up or binds, back off the screw you just tightened until it frees up again.
You can be firm with these screws, but not forceful - if you really have to go at it to make them move, you're much more likely to do some damage.

This horn is a Mauriat, which uses pseudo point screws. Tightening pseudo points up will usually make little difference to the tightness of the key. If the screw is loose, it'll certainly help to tighten it up - and it'll make a small improvement, but it simply doesn't have the built-in adjustability of a properly tapered point screw. In this instance I was able to reduce some of the side-to-side play but not the end-to-end play. Fixing this will require rather more work.

If you're lucky enough to have a horn fitted with proper point screws, and there's some adjustment left in them, you may find that when you tighten the screw up until the key binds and then slacken it off, the screw isn't tight enough in the pillar to stay put...or it turns as you operate the key.
Applying threadlockThe solution for this is to lock the screw in place. Ideally a drop of proper threadlock is what you need. Loctite 222 (low strength) is the stuff to get - but it's not widely available and can be a little temperamental if there's any oil around (which there usually is). Loctite 243 (medium strength) is more commonly available, and will tolerate a bit of oil and grease. Simply back the screw out to expose the threads, pop a tiny drop of threadlock on the tip of a smaller screwdriver or a cocktail stick, then carefully apply it to the threads.

Threadlock applied to screwAs you can see, you really don't need much - just enough to wet the threads nearest the head. If you overdo it and flood the screw, soak up the excess with a bit of tissue paper. Tighten up the screw until the key binds, back it off a touch and leave the threadlock to set (ten minutes ought to do it). You can then make a further small adjustment if necessary.
If you don't have any Loctite handy you can try a drop of nail varnish - or you can wrap a little cotton thread around the screw threads. Whatever you do, though, don't be tempted to use any other kind of threadlock than those mentioned. Some of them will lock such a small screw permanently in place.

Loose rod screwYou can, to some extent, tighten up the rod screws too. These sometimes work loose over time, and this can introduce a little free play into the mech. Follow the same rules - though this time the screw must be turned until it locks into place. You'll feel it when it happens, at which point you can give the screw juuuuust a tiny pinch up to drive it fully home.
There's a caveat, though. If there's some wear in the key, or the rod's a little bit bent, you might find that tightening the screw up causes the key to which case you have no choice but to back the screw out to a position where the key moves freely again. This'll need fixing properly at some point.
You can find more details about screws, key barrels and the action in general here.

Wear in vintage mechs is slightly easier to diagnose because although the mechs might be complex in structure (with various key arms flying about here and there), the actual components parts are relatively crude. You'll have fewer swivelling gadgets and fork/pin connectors to contend with and, essentially, most of the checks will be concerned with looking for wear in individual keys. The tests you'll use are exactly the same as those used to check the rest of a horn's action for wear and tear - as in the link above.
This relative crudeness is both the mech's advantage and its Achilles heel because you can set up a worn vintage mech in such a fashion that it will work just fine (if a little clumsily) - it's just a matter of making allowances for a bit of looseness - but unlike a modern mech it has very little tolerance for wear that occurs after the mech has been set up (unless all the keys wear more or less evenly).

Related sections:

Insufficient travel on pin key
Binding mech

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Insufficient travel on pin key

You'll have seen, hopefully, from the preamble to the troubleshooting section that there's a direct relationship between the distance the pin key rises and the amount the crook key opens. This assumes that there's very little free play between the pin key at rest and the crook key ring, and that the motion transmitted by pressing the thumb key isn't being lost within the mech because of wear and tear or poor build quality.
Gap between pin and octave key ringTherefore the first port of call has to be the section on checking for a worn/badly made mech.

Assuming your mech passes that test, the next thing to check is that the ring key is correctly positioned. When the mech is at rest there should be a small amount of clearance between the pin key and the crook key ring...ideally around a millimetre or so. In some instances (perhaps due to a worn or poorly-built mech) a greater distance may be required - but once you get much beyond 3mm it's a fair bet that you have a problem.

With this much clearance a great deal of the pin's movement is going to be taken up by moving from its resting position to a point where it contacts the crook key ring...after which point any movement that's left in the mech is all that'll be available for raising the crook key. If it's only a couple of millimetres or so it's likely to mean that you'll hear hissing from the upper octave notes, and there's a chance that the body octave key won't be opening as much as it ought to. If the mech passes that test too, then your problems are likely to be down to how much 'throw' is available in the mech.

If your mech was working fine previously then it means that something has changed - and this could be down to damage (pillars being knocked out of alignment or part of the mech binding) or something obstructing the movement of the various parts. Perhaps a cork or felt has fallen off and got itself trapped in the mech - or, more commonly, half of it has come free and has folded up on itself...thus doubling its effective thickness. Check out the section on over-thick pin key corks.

Related sections:

Worn/badly made mech
Ring distorted
Body/crook key not rising enough (hissing)
Over-thick buffer beneath pin key

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Over-strong crook key spring

The crook key spring has two functions; the first is to ensure that, at rest, the octave key pad is held securely against the pip - and it must do so with just enough force to maintain a good seal against the air pressure present in the bore of the horn when you play it. The second is to be strong enough to provide power back down the octave key pin to assist in opening the body octave key - and to resist any 'stray' power coming up the pin when the body key is in use. This shouldn't happen on a modern swivel mech, but what with friction, wear and poor manufacture, it's not uncommon to see the pin key move a little when the body key is in play. Provided the spring is of sufficient strength it'll easily be able to resist this relatively weak force. On an older mech, however, the power supplied by the closing force of the crook key spring may be vital to the proper operation of the entire mech.

As a general rule, an overly strong crook key spring won't prevent a modern swivel mech from working. Provided the mech's in good condition all it will do is make the mech feel stiff and sluggish when playing from top A upwards. But if the mech's worn or badly made there'll be a certain amount of free play that will need to be 'taken up' before the pin key moves...and this can be problematic. Let's say, for example, that when you press the octave touchpiece key down, it moves 5 millimetres - but due to free play in the mech this only results in the pin key moving half as much (2.5 millimetres). In other words you've lost half the motion you put in.
Broken flat springIf the crook key spring is strong enough it might have enough power to resist what little power remains in the mech and push back against the pin key...and in so doing it will take up the free play in the opposite direction - and as it amounts to half the throw of the octave key, it'll effectively cancel out all the motion. If you're unsure as to whether your octave mech has excessive free play in it, check out the section on worn or badly made octave mechs.
It's rare that things ever get quite this bad, and what usually happens is that a strong crook key spring will have enough power to resist some - but not all - of the power. In this case the result is that the crook doesn't open quite as much as it would were its spring a little weaker.

Things are often far more serious with an older mech, where the power from the crook key spring may have to be balanced against other springs in the mech - so that in certain conditions one spring is able to overcome the power of another.

Removing the crook key rod screwWhile it's reasonably easy to diagnose this problem it's much harder to fix it. It raises the question of whether the crook key spring is too strong...or the other springs within the mech are too weak. Sure, it often only involves tweaking a spring to reduce the power it provides - but because you can run into as many problems with an overly weak spring, there's a need to get the spring tension just right...and on a vintage mech you may well have to adjust a couple of other springs as well.
It's the sort of job even an experienced repairer always approaches with least a little caution, and more than half an eye on what effects any tweaks will have on the rest of the mech. In other words it's a job best left to a professional. Consider that a friendly warning - and if you still wish to proceed, be sure to read the caveats at the end of this section...

To adjust the crook key spring you're going to have to remove the crook key. To be honest, it is possible to adjust the spring without removing the key - but it's a tricky job, and unless you really know what you're doing (and what you can get away with) the chances of breaking the spring are very high. In most cases it breaks off at the screw hole (as shown above), but it's entirely possible to snap a spring clean in half.
Flat spring at restRemoving the key is pretty simple - it's usually just a matter of removing the rod screw that the key pivots on. In some cases there may be a pair of point screws; if so, remove one screw and see whether the key can be lifted off. If not, back the other screw out a bit and try again. It's unlikely you'll need to remove both screws. In both cases, though, set the screw aside in a safe place....if you lose it, you'll ruin your day.

You should now be able to see the spring on the underside of the key. Note the (very) tiny screw that holds it in place. If, when bending the spring, you allow this screw to take all of the strain, it may well be pulled right out of the key...stripping the threads in the key as it does so. It's a small risk, admittedly, but still a risk nonetheless.
My advice is to undo this little screw and remove the spring. Put the screw in a safe place. A really safe place.
Removing the flat springYou'll see that the spring is curved when at rest. The more curved it is, the stronger the force it will provide when fitted to the key - and thus the less curved, the less force. As it's too strong it'll need straightening out slightly. If the spring isn't too short and thick you may well be able to bend it with your fingers - simply grip each end and carefully bend it backwards against the curvature.

Chances are it'll be too small and fiddly, so you'll need some a couple of pairs of pliers. Ideal these should have smooth (not serrated) jaws - but if you don't have any, just wrap some tape over the jaws.
The first pair is placed over the end with the screw hole in it. I like to place it just forward of the hole to ensure that no stress is placed on this very weak part of the spring. With the spring gripped firmly you can now use the other pair of pliers to adjust its curve.
Don't simply clamp the pliers down on the tip of the spring. More often that not the tip has been turned back on itself slightly so as to provide a smooth surface against the spring cradle. If you damage it, the spring might bind in use.
Your best bet is to grip the spring just a little further forward of its centre, towards the tip. Now, very carefully bend the spring backwards. And that's it. You've now weakened the spring. Whether it's by enough or too much remains to be seen - and you won't know that until you refit the key.

Bending the spring with pliersRefitting the spring can be a damn fiddly job. Holding the spring and the screw in position while trying to get the screw to engage on the threads in the key is a bit of a parlour game - but there are a couple of tricks. You can pop the screw through the hole in the spring and use the spring to guide the screw into place. One little shake of the hand, though, and out pops the screw - so do this job over a sheet of white paper on top of an uncluttered table. It'll help if you're able to clamp the key down in some fashion (it'll be one less thing that can move). I'm using a lump of adhesive tack, and with the key secure I can lift the spring (with its screw fitted) over the top of the screw socket. At this point you want to carefully insert the tip of the screwdriver into the slot and use it, and the spring, to guide the screw down into the socket.

Refitting the flat springAlternatively you can squish some adhesive tack onto the end of your screwdriver, then push the screw into it...ensuring that the tip of the blade sits in the slot on the screw. You can also use a magnetised screwdriver...but this often ends up making things worse.
What's vitally important is that you don't force the screw home. It should require no force at all to get the threads started - and at all times you must ensure the screw is held straight. If you 'cross' the thread you'll end up in a lot of trouble...and you may even break the screw.

So that's the 'proper' method. You can probably see that if you need to make more than one adjustment to the spring, all that taking it off and putting it back on again is going to get very here's how I do it.
Slacken the screw off just a tad - just enough to allow you to push the spring to one side. You should now have enough room to grip the spring near its base (assuming your pliers are small enough). As before, use another pair of pliers to make the adjustment...then push the spring back into line and tighten down the screw.
Bending the flat spring in placeOnce you've a fair few jobs like this you soon learn how to adjust the spring using only a single pair of pliers - but I'm not going to explain how to do this on the basis that even a slight miscalculation will break the spring or rip the screw out of its socket.

If you've overdone the bending and the spring is now too weak, strengthening it up is less of a faff. As you'll be increasing the curvature of the spring, the force you'll need to apply will push the base of the spring down onto the key...which means there's no risk of pulling the screw out. Just grip the spring in the centre and give it a bit of a tweak. Just a bit, not too much.

Aligning the spring tip in the cradleWhen refitting the key, take the time to clean out the key barrel (use a pipe cleaner dampened with a drop of cigarette lighter fluid/naphtha) and pop a drop of fresh oil on it. Give the spring cradle a wipe too, then pop a drop of oil (or grease) on it. This will help the spring tip to slide in the cradle. Lower the key onto the crook, locate the tip of the spring in its cradle then push the key down until the barrel sits between the pillars...then push the rod screw in. If you're dealing with point screws, locate the barrel on the tip of the screw you left in place, then line up the spring in its cradle before pushing the barrel down between the pillars.

Kinked flat springAs with many of the techniques described in this guide, there are caveats and gotchas to take into account - the chief of which is that of the spring profile (the shape of its curve).
There's rarely a great deal of room between the underside of the crook key and the crook tube, and you'll nearly always find that the spring has to span the key's barrel...which may reduce the available space even further. In some cases it's not possible to fit a gracefully curved spring into this space, and rather sharper curves and kinks are needed. When dealing with such springs it's highly likely that any adjustment you make to these specific bends will result in the tweaked spring touching the key barrel before the key fully opens. It may also mean that that the foot of the spring (which sits in the spring cradle) effectively moves back towards the centre of the spring (think of it as walking on your heels rather than tiptoeing), or the middle of the spring hits the underside of the crook key. All of these situations will lead to unpredictable results - and in your efforts to correct them the chances of breaking the spring increase exponentially.
Spring kinked over a key barrelFor the home tweaker your best bet is to think of the bent/sharply curved section of the spring as being a no-man's-land. Don't go there, don't touch it. Any adjustments you need to make to the spring will have to be made before the bend or after it. And yes, it does rather limit what you can do. Replacing the spring with a thinner/thicker one is often the best solution to adjusting the spring tension.
If nothing else, it'll certainly pay dividends to start by spending some time opening and closing the crook key while you watch how the spring moves - and note which parts are likely to foul against the barrel/body if you bend the spring in a particular direction.

Owners of cheap curved sopranos should be particularly aware of this problem, as it's very common for the crook key spring to be set heavy in order to disguise manufacturing problems in the mech. Typically the mech will work, but feels awful - but if you weaken the spring, the mech is likely to stop working altogether. There's also the issue of the spring's profile (the way in which it's bent so that it fits under the key barrel). I've covered this, briefly, in this article - but suffice to say that getting the profile right on such springs is less of a science and more of an art.

As for what strength the spring should be set at - well, that's a 'how long is a piece of string' conundrum. There's certainly a minimum strength - and that's described in the section on weak, dislodged or broken springs - but as far as I'm aware there aren't any convenient standards for setting the maximum practical strength of the spring other than 'experience tells me that feels about right'...which is a fat lot of good to you. So I've made one up.

I made up a set of balls of various sizes/weights by rolling up a load of adhesive tack and stuck them on to a variety of crook keys. By juggling my balls around (what? what??) I found that when a ball weighing 25 grammes (about 30mm in diameter) is stuck to the top of the octave key cup and the crook turned upside down, the key would be 'in balance'...which is to say that it opened slightly and then came to rest about a centimetre above the octave key pip. Of course, it's heavily dependent on the size and design of the key - but it at least represents a practical maximum.
For tenors it should be just fine - and eminently workable for most altos. Sopranos and baritones can go a bit lighter.
If anyone can come up with a better method, please feel free to let me know.

Related sections:

Worn or badly made mechs
Weak, dislodged or broken crook key spring

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Weak, dislodged or broken crook key spring (and others)

As much as I like to encourage players to carry out their own maintenance and basic tweakery, I think it's fair to point out that fiddling around with the springs on an octave mech unless you really, really know what you're doing is liable to end in tears, fits of uncontrolled rage, acute despair, regret, remorse and feelings of inadequacy that may only be quelled by consuming vast quantities of alcohol.
By itself, tweaking a spring isn't a particularly difficult job. Sure, it carries with it the risk that the spring might break but aside from that it's really just a matter of knowing how much to tweak the spring and for what purpose. However, when you're dealing with a number of springs (anything from 3 to 5 of them, sometimes even more) that must be carefully set so that they're all balanced against each other, the chances of your getting it right on the basis of having read an article about it are pretty slim.
So the emphasis for this section is "Look, diagnose and understand what's gone wrong - but think very carefully before attempting a repair".

If the problem is down to a broken spring, it's going to mean a trip to the repairer.
There are a couple of workarounds though, the most well-known being the judicial placement of elastic bands to act as temporary springs. How successful this is depends on finding an elastic band of suitable size and strength, and whether or not there's any way of attaching it to the keywork in such a fashion that it duplicates the action of the broken spring (i.e. opening or closing a key).
Keep in mind that all a spring does is provide a certain force in a certain direction, and that you can often achieve the same effect by the use of weights. For example, wrapping a small elastic band over the crook key will duplicate the action of the spring that's usually fitted to this key - but exactly the same effect can be had by sticking a lump of adhesive tack on the key cup.
OK, so it looks bloody silly, and while playing your eyes will be inexorably drawn towards it - thus making you appear cross-eyed to onlookers...but hey, the horn will work, and that's what counts.

Dislodged flat springDislodged springs are rather easier to deal with, flat springs particularly so. These are fixed to the key at one end, usually by means of a small screw, and the other rests on the body on the instrument...typically in a spring cradle in the form of a raised block or a slot cut into a plate. It's not common for a flat spring's tip to jump out of its cradle, so any fix should involve trying to work out how the spring became dislodged in the first place. Perhaps the screw that holds it onto the key is loose? Because the spring is always under tension, it would take a fair old knock to make it jump out of it cradle...unless the spring had become weaker for some reason. This is an unlikely possibility (but a possibility nonetheless) and what's more likely is that the spring has a crack in it and isn't far of breaking completely.
Another cause might be a spot of overenthusiastic cleaning. If you stuffed a cloth beneath the crook key to clean off a stubborn mark, you might easily have pushed the flat spring out of its cradle.

Repositioning the flat springTo reseat a flat spring, carefully insert the tip of a small screwdriver underneath the spring as close to the tip as can be managed, and gently lift it up and over into the cradle. Try not to simply push the spring'll likely mark the body. If there's neither a channel or a cradle, and the spring tip simply sits on the body, just position in line with the centre of the key.
And bear in mind that this is likely to be very temporary fix if the cause of the problem is a loose spring. If there's no spring cradle, the spring will probably slide over again the moment the key is operated. You could try sticking a blob of adhesive tack either side of the spring until such times as the screw can be properly tightened.

Weak crook key springs are quite rare. They either turn up on (cheap) brand new horns or they're a short-lived prelude to the spring breaking altogether. Any other cause is usually man-made (poor tweakery). They can be rather tricky to diagnose, because a weak spring will do half of its intended job (to bring the crook key pad down onto the octave key pip) but won't have sufficient strength to provide any power to operate the rest of the octave key mech - and it may well allow the crook key pad to leak.

So how light is too light? That's quite a tricky question to answer, because so much depends on the design and size of the crook key - and the mech it connects to - but there are a couple of tests you can carry out that will help.
The first of these is a simple blow test. Take the crook in your hand, turn it upside down so that the crook key cup is facing the floor then place the palm of your hand over the mouthpiece end to seal it up, put the other end (the tenon sleeve) against your lips...and blow hard. You don't need to make yourself go blue in the face, but you do need to give it a firm blow. The key's spring should be able to resist the force of the air pressure combined with the downward weight of the key. If it can't, you'll hear/feel a leak from the octave key pad. It's a crude test - and yes, you're a bit stuffed if you own a soprano with a single-piece body - but it's a start. Owners of horns with properly underslung crooks (such as the Conn 6M) will not need to invert the crook.
All this assumes your octave key pad is sealing properly - so if you detect a leak, flip the crook over, put your palm over the tenon sleeve and blow down the mouthpiece end as before. If there's no leak now, it's all down to the spring.

The second test is to check for the amount of bounce when the key is operated smartly. Fit the crook to the horn then hit the octave key smartly. The crook key will jump open and will most likely bounce a little. You'll hear this as a slight, quick rattle for a fraction of a second - and if you lift the crook key up and hit the octave key again and you'll hear that the slight rattle has gone.
If you hear a very distinct rattle or even another clunk as the key bounces, it's likely to mean the crook key spring is on the weak side.

Crook key with adhesive tack weightThe final test is to increase the strength of the spring to see whether it improves the operation of the octave key mech and solves your problem - but rather than muck about with the spring we're simply going to use the trick for dealing with a broken spring and add a little extra weight to the crook key. Grab yourself some adhesive tack and pull off a pea-sized ball. This'll weigh just over a gramme. Stick it on top of the crook key cup. If you haven't got any adhesive tack handy you'll have to improvise with a piece of tape and something small and light (though at a pinch you could use a lump of cheese).
The extra weight will increase the power the spring passes back down to the mech - and if your problem related to a weak crook key spring, this'll cure it temporarily...or for as long as you want to gig with a lump of adhesive tack/cheese stuck to your crook key.
Owners of properly underslung horns are out of luck with this test...unless they're able to play the horn upside down.

If your tests indicate a weak crook key spring, it'll need to be strengthened. The technique for doing this is described in the section on dealing with over-strong crook key springs - all you have to do is increase the curvature of the spring rather than flattening it out.

Dealing with needle springs is a rather more complicated affair inasmuch as they often work in pairs or trios in an octave mech - which is to say the operation of the mech relies on the strength of one spring being balanced against the strength of another. What that means is that if you tweak the strength of one spring, you may well have to tweak the strength of another...and another. And you may have to keep going back and forth until you find the balance. Even worse, if you don't really know whether the mech is working properly in the first place you may well find yourself going round and around in a circle until such times as you break one of the springs. There is, however, one simple problems you can tackle with ease...

Unhooking a needle springNeedle springs are typically fixed into pillars, and are seated on cradles suspended from the key barrels or cut into key arms. It's slightly more common to find that they've 'jumped the cradle' - and a somewhat lighter knock to the horn than that required to dislodge a flat spring may be the culprit.
If this happens, however, it usually means that the spring angle in relation to the body of the horn is wrong - so that as well as the spring wanting to push to one side or the other, it also has a tendency to push down towards the body. As a general rule of thumb the spring should stick out of its pillar perpendicular to a line running from top to bottom down the pillar...and a very slight angle upwards is an even better bet.

Unhooked spring at restTo reseat a needle spring it is simply pushed back underneath the cradle and then lifted up an allowed to spring back against it - but it's not always easy to work out which way is 'back'. Some springs are so lightly tensioned that when they become unseated they sit more or less directly beneath the cradle. If you're lucky there will only be one way in which the spring can go (typically when the cradle is cut into a key arm), but a suspended cradle like the one shown here often offers no clues as to which side of it the spring should sit.
Here's a handy hint though: If you can see all of the tip of the spring it's going to ping away from you when you release it. If part of the tip is obsured by the cradle, it's going to ping towards you when you release it - just as it did in this example.

If you really insist on tweaking the springs, here's how you go about it.
Note the original position of the spring on its cradle. Unhook it from its cradle. The tip of the spring should now come to rest to one side of the cradle. In this case the spring has come towards me before coming to rest, and in order to make it stronger I need to pull it even further towards me. If I wanted to weaken it I'd have to push it back away from me.

I'm now pulling the spring towards me. Because it's a spring it's going to resist the pull, so I'll need to pull it a little way past this point of resistance so that when I let it go it'll come to rest a little further towards me than it was before.
There's a bit of risk involved because it's during this tweakery that the spring may break. You can avoid this by removing the key and using a special pair of spring pliers to manipulate the spring...but almost no-one uses the damn things because hardly anyone's got that much time to spare.
Increasing the tension of a springIf your springs are in good shape and are of good quality they'll certainly tolerate a bit of tweaking in this manner - and if they're stainless springs (they'll be silver in colour) they're unlikely to break no matter what you do to them. Just be careful, OK?

Once you've tweaked the spring to your satisfaction, push it back beneath the cradle then lift it up to locate it in place. Test the key to see whether the modified spring tension has had the desired results.
And it may well do - but as mentioned earlier, you may also find that another part of the mech doesn't work now because it relied on the tension of the spring you adjusted being 'just so'. So now you'll have to adjust the tension of that other key...which may well affect yet another key, or it might affect the key you just adjusted. Or the mech might simply not work at all.
Fortunately there's a handy tool that will sort this problem out in a's called 'decades of experience'. I know that probably sounds glib - but trust me, it's not.

For those of you with modern swivelling mechs, the outlook isn't quite so bleak because there are only three springs to deal with, including the crook key spring.
This leaves just two springs powering the mech, and they are the touchpiece spring and the G key spring. You can tighten these two springs up as much as you like and the mech will likely carry on working. It might feel awful in use, but it won't come to a grinding halt.

Related sections:

Over-strong crook key springs

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G key spring too weak

On a modern swivelling mech the G key spring, along with that on the octave touchpiece, provides the power necessary to operate the mech.
If the G key spring is too weak it won't have the necessary power to switch the mech from using the body octave key to the crook key. It may show itself as a complete failure to raise the crook key and close the body key, or (as is more likely) it raises the crook key slowly...and perhaps not to its full height.
It's very easy to test - you finger an octave G, take your finger off the G key and slip it beneath the key pearl...and push the key up. If the octave mech now works it simply means you need to increase the tension of the G key's spring.
Finding the spring is the first order of business, and it's usually located either at the top end of the key (right near the top of the horn) or somewhere near the key cup. As for how to adjust the spring, see the section on weak springs for more details.

Related sections:

Weak, dislodged or broken crook key spring (and others)

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Springing and friction problems - vintage/active/bari mechs

As I said in Part 1, setting up or dealing with a vintage or active mech can be a real nightmare. A modern mech has quite a lot of latitude built into it when it comes to regulating it and settling the spring tension - and if you get it wrong there's a very good chance that the mech will still work even if it feels stiff and clunky or loose and wobbly.
This tends not to be the case with active mechs because they're essentially a balancing act; each spring within the mech must be adjusted so that it works in harmony with every other spring. To further complicate matters such mechs often feature keys which slide over each other - and this adds friction into the equation. If just one part of the mech is faulty, the whole thing is likely to grind to a halt at some point.
When it comes to diagnosing and troubleshooting such mechs there are a few things you should know that may help you decide on an appropriate course of action.

  • If the mech was working previously and then suddenly failed, there's a very good chance that either a spring has broken or come unseated, a buffer has fallen off or worn away, one or other of the key barrels has rusted up, or the mech's taken a knock.
  • If the horn is a recent purchase or you have no way of knowing if the mech was working before, the problems could be due to any/all of the above or be entirely down to a poor setup.
  • Unless you have previous experience of setting up active mechs you'll be very lucky if you can diagnose a setup problem without checking the entire mech from top to bottom

Vintage active mechBecause you're reading this article I think it's fair to assume that the last point is the one that applies, so I'm going to take you through an active mech setup in the hope that it'll help you make the right call.
I described how an active mech works earlier but let's take a closer look at the relationship between the component parts, how they work individually and how they work in tandem with each other. The first thing you need to work out is what each key does and what its 'default' or at rest state is.

Starting with the octave touchpiece, its default state is that the arm at the top of the key is held down towards the body and the thumb key is held upwards away from the body. A large spring beneath the key barrel provides the power to hold the key in this position. When you press the thumb key down, the arm at the top end rises.
The body key's default state is open. Its spring is trying to push the key cup up and away from the body, but is prevented from doing so by either the top arm of the touchpiece key or the foot of the G key. It can and should only move when the downward force of both the octave touchpiece and the G key is removed.
The G key's default state is down (at the other end of the key the cup and pad will be held open).
Active mech pin key default stateThe pin key's default state is that the pin is pushed upwards away from the body. Likewise the small arm on the lower end of the key. The longer arm, however, is pushed down towards the body. The tip of this arm hovers over the G key's foot - and at rest there is a gap between them, as shown more clearly on the left. The pin itself cannot rise because the octave touchpiece is holding it down.
Note the spring that powers the pin key - it's going to be very important shortly.
The crook key (not shown) is held closed, and its ring hovers above the pin. There should be a very small gap between the pin and the ring when the mech is at rest.

When you play any note from octave A upwards the octave touchpiece will be pressed down and its upper arm will rise. It has now lifted off the body key - but the body key still cannot rise because the G key foot is still holding it down.
However, the touchpiece arm has also lifted off the pin key's shorter lower arm and there is now nothing to stop its spring from pushing the pin upward and away from the body. As it does so, two things happen - the pin hits the crook key's ring and raises it, which opens the crook key pad...and the longer lower arm on the pin key drops down to rest on the top of the G key foot.
The mech is now ready for you to play any note from octave A upwards.

When you move down the scale from octave A to G (and below) you'll press the G key down and this will raise the G key's foot. Two things will happen; as the G foot rises there is now nothing holding the body key down (you still have the octave key pressed down, remember?) - and its spring will push it up and away from the body, thus opening the body key pad. The lower longer arm of the pin key was resting on the G key's foot, and as the foot rises so it takes the arm with it. This pushes the pin down towards the body, and because there's now nothing holding the crook key open against the closing force of its spring, the crook key pad drops down and closes.

When you release the octave key the touchpiece's upper arm drops down. If you were playing an A or above, the pin key's shorter lower arm will be raised away from the body - and as the touchpiece arm falls it will bring the pin key arm down with it. This will lower the pin itself, which in turn will cause the crook key to drop and close.
If you were playing a G or below, the body key will be open - and as the touchpiece arm falls it'll bring the body key down with it. In both cases both octave pads will be closed and you'll be back in the lower octave.

This is more or less how a typical vintage active mech works (there are numerous variations), and now we need to delve into why it works if you're going to be able to diagnose any problems.
Ignoring the felts and corks for a moment, it should be clear that the mech relies almost completely on springs for its functionality - but what might not be so clear is that the strength of the spring that powers the pin key is perhaps the most critical aspect of the entire mech.
A modern mech relies on leverage to transfer motion from the touchpiece (and the G key) to the pin, which essentially means that the more force you put into the mech, the more you'll get out of it. With a vintage mech you're almost completely reliant on how well the internal springs have been tensioned. I suppose a pertinent analogy would be that a modern mech is like a manual gearbox on a car...and a vintage one is more like an automatic. That in itself ought to send a shiver down your spine.

Let's walk through the operation of the mech again with a view to how the springs work with each other.
When you play an octave A you press the thumb key down against the force of its spring. The upper arm rises and releases its downward force on the pin key.
The pin key rises with the force of the spring powering it - and here's where we run into the first balancing trick. The crook key is held closed by its spring, so the pin key's spring has to be strong enough to raise the pin and overcome the force of the crook key's spring (and the weight of the key) in order to open it. That's quite a lot of work, so it would make sense to ensure that the pin key spring is set quite strong.
If you now release to octave key (to play a low A) the touchpiece key's upper arm has to force the pin key's lower shorter arm down against the force of its spring - and because that shorter is, well, short, you don't really get much mechanical help by way of leverage. It's pretty much an arm-wrestling contest between the downward force of the touchpiece arm and the opening force of the pin key's spring.

When you switch to playing an octave G, the G key foot rises - and as we saw earlier it'll have the longer lower arm of the pin key resting on it. This will cause the pin to drop, and the good news here is that this motion is pure leverage. However, you'll have the force of the G key's spring (which is trying to keep the G key pad open) and the force of the pin key's spring (which is trying to keep the pin raised) to add to the power required by your G key finger. You'll have some small assistance though from the crook key spring, which is trying to force the key closed - and you'll have a little more assistance from the body octave key spring, which is trying to force the key open.
When you release the octave key (to play a low G), the touchpiece upper arm needs only force the body key down against the force of its spring - which won't be a very strong one.

Hopefully you can see that at some point the pin key's spring has to do a lot of heavy lifting, and your first reaction might be "Hell, set that puppy strong!"
And this would work - in one direction anyway. The crook key would certainly rise smartly when you wanted to play an octave A...but when you wanted to drop down the octave again, the poor old touchpiece key would really have its work cut out in trying to force that pin key back down. Of course, the answer is to increase the power of the touchpiece spring, right?
Well yes, that would work - but you're now in a sort of arms race, and the inevitable result is that the mech is going to feel ever more stiff and unresponsive the more you beef up the springs. And we haven't even considered what beefing up the springs will do to the mech when we want to play an octave G.

Testing the pin key springIn short, it ain't gonna work. What's needed is a more sympathetic approach, and the best way to do this is by working from the top down.
Start with the crook key. Its spring needs to be strong enough to hold the pad down against the force of air in the crook when you play the horn, and to overcome the weight of the key.
How to check and adjust this is covered in the section on Weak, dislodged or broken crook key springs - but as a very general rule of thumb you want this key to be as lightly sprung as possible so that the pin key has less work to do.

The next spring down the line is on the pin key, and this must be set so that it has enough power to open the crook key.
Press the octave key down to release the pin key. You can now get a finger under the pin key's lower longer arm and operate the key manually. It's a good idea to hold the horn upright in it's normal playing position when you do this, because the effective weight of the crook key changes when the horn is held more horizontally - and this will give you a 'false reading'.
How does the key feel? Does it move smoothly and swiftly? When you lift the arm to drop the pin and release it so that it opens the crook key, does it do so immediately - or does it seem to struggle? If it works well, d'you get the sense that it might work just as well if the spring was a touch lighter?

Adjusting the pin key springAdjusting this spring is generally pretty easy.
First you have to figure out which way the spring will need to go when it's unhitched from its cradle (the bit that the tip of the spring sits on/in). In this case the cradle is built into the key arm, so it should be clear that the spring wants to push into the arm.
Suspended cradles are a little trickier, and there are some notes in the above-mentioned section which will help.
I've carefully released the spring by hooking it with a springhook, gently pulling it back until it just clears the cradle, then carefully lowering it below the cradle. Once released, the spring has pinged away from me.
To increase the strength of the spring I'd need to push is even further away from me - to weaken it I'd want to pull it back towards me. There's a bit of a knack to gauging how far to push or pull the spring, and I'm afraid the only way of acquiring this incredibly useful skill is to get out there and do it.

Pulling the pin key spring backHaving adjusted the spring I'm now gently pulling it back to relocate it in the cradle. I need only pull it back far enough to allow me to lift it up over the bottom of the cradle and into the slot. If I pull back any further than this I'll start to weaken the spring. If I find that my adjustment has made the spring too strong, I need only hook the spring again and just give it a gentle tug backwards (towards me in this instance).
It's not a difficult technique, but you should be aware that it always carries with it the risk that the spring will break during the operation. This is less likely the newer the spring is (and if it's a stainless steel spring...which will look silver in colour rather than blue) - so a vintage horn with vintage springs represents much more of a risk.
I'm using a springhook - which is a very useful tool. They're inexpensive and worth getting - but you can easily make your own, or simply use a small stick with a groove cut into it (you'd use it more as a 'pusher' rather than a puller).

Testing the body key springOnce you're happy with the tension of the pin key spring, the next one down the line is the body key spring.
This should be set quite light because all it needs to do is lift the octave key pad off the octave key pip. That said, it needs to be strong enough to overcome the inevitable stickiness of the leather pad.
If you finger an octave G you'll release the body key, and you can manually operate the key with your finger. The key should drop down readily under the weight of your finger and rise up smartly when released. Again, only experience can tell you how strong the spring should be set - but if you think of the sort of tension on the button on your computer's mouse it'll give you a very rough idea of what you're aiming for. Light but responsive.

Body octave key springHere's the spring that powers the key, and as I can see all of the tip I know that in order to increase its tension I will need to push it away from me - and to weaken it I'll need to pull it towards me.
Once you release the spring from its cradle you might find that the key cup prevents you from pushing the spring forwards (though I doubt you'd want to push this spring that far). You can gain a bit more room by fingering a G, so that the body key rises.

You've now dealt with the two 'internal' springs - which was the hard part. All that's left is to adjust the 'external' springs on the octave touchpiece and the G key. Both of these are going to have to be set quite strong. The G key has a lot of work to do because the key itself is quite heavy, and the touchpiece key is going to have to be strong enough to overcome the pin key's spring.

Vintage octave key springHere's the octave touchpiece spring, and as you can see it's quite a brute. And it needs to be - but you really don't want it to be any heavier than the mechanism demands. How you determine that is reasonably simple, you just finger an octave A and then release the octave key...and see what happens. If it brings the pin key down smartly (and thus the crook key) there's a chance that you might get away with setting the spring a little bit lighter.
If, however, the pin key seems slow to drop or a little stiff, you're almost certainly going to have to increase the tension of the touchpiece spring. You needn't worry about the body octave key - as long as its spring hasn't been set absurdly strong it's not going to stand up against the force of the touchpiece spring.

And then there's the G key spring. The location of this spring varies - on some horns it's at the top of the key near the foot, and on others it's down the other end near the key cup. You set it using the principles described above, but in terms of the octave mech all it really needs to do is hold down the body octave key - though it will need to be strong enough to operate the G key itself.

And there you go - that wasn't so hard, was it?
Unfortunately (and you knew this was coming) the spring tension is only half of the story - because the connections between all those keys will need buffering to prevent the mech from being unbearably noisy. Modern mechs are delightfully simple in this respect because they have so few buffers - and as the mechs are pretty much of the same design it's easy to say "Put a thin piece of cork here" and leave it at that.
Vintage mechs come in all manner of designs, and what advice works for one may well not work for another - which is why I like to focus on the operating principles, and rely on you apply the theory to whatever mech you happen to be staring at. There are, however, a few basic rules-of-thumb that may help.
There are two types of connections; those that go straight up and down, and those that slide. In truth there's often a bit of both going on, so you sometimes have to make judgement calls as to how to treat a particular connection. If that sounds confusing, think in terms of lifting your foot off the ground and then placing it straight back down. That's a simple up and down connection between the sole of your foot and the floor. Now slide your foot along the floor a few inches. That's a sliding connection.
If you lift your foot and move it forward as you drop it, that's an up/down sliding connection. You can see pretty quickly that the sliding connection relies greatly on there being a slippery boundary between your foot and the floor.
Another rule of thumb is that the buffers between connecting keys should be as thin as possible. Granted, it isn't always the case but it's a very good place from which to start.

Pin key buffersSo let's go through this mech yet again, and this time focus on the buffering requirements.
First up, the pin key connection to the crook key ring. This is very much an up/down slidey connection - the pin key must push the ring up, but as it does so the ring will ride up on the pin.
If we made the buffer out of, say, sandpaper, it would tend to grip against the ring...and unless the pin key's spring was incredibly strong, the ring would bind. The pin would be unable to rise and the crook key wouldn't open, or would only open fractionally. Clearly you want something a bit more slippery than sandpaper.
Felt is a nice option. It's tough and very quiet in operation...but it's not the most slippery of buffers. Indeed, when I set this mech up I started off with a nice piece of felt on the pin - but it just wouldn't work with the spring tension I'd dialled into the mech. The crook key would rise about halfway and them come to a halt - so I swapped it out for a piece of heatshrink tubing. This is a lot more slippery, but it's also a bit noisier. It's a tradeoff, and in this instance I wanted to veer more towards a slick action than a quiet one.

Now look at the underside of the pin - you'll see there another buffer there. This prevents the pin from clashing against the body, and is often one of the thicker buffers on an active mech.
It has to be set quite carefully, however, because its thickness determines what happens at the other end of the key.
Let's go back to the shot of testing the body key spring and pan out a bit to see what the pin key is doing.
You can see the G key foot is raised (which means a G or lower is being played), and you can also see that the longer lower arm of the pin key has been raised too. But look at the pin itself - it's down, right against the body.
Now, if you were to slip, say, a piece of card underneath the pin - what d'you suppose would happen? Well, it would lift the pin further away from the body - but in so doing it would force that longer lower arm down. But it's sitting on top of the G key foot, so the foot would also have to drop down. The problem here - and it's a big one - is that at the other end of the G key is the pad, and it has to close over the G key tonehole. That G foot in the shot is in precisely that position because it's stopped at the point where the pad has sealed over the tonehole and the key can go no further. If you prevent that from happening you'll have a dirty great leak from the G key pad. We call this 'holding off'.

So you can see that there's a very direct relationship between the buffer beneath the pin and the proper operation of the G key - and the way to size that pin key buffer is to press the G key down and note the distance between the pin and the body...and then fit a buffer that is ever so slightly thinner than this gap (or fit a thicker one and cut/sand it to size). This will leave a gap between the buffer and the body when an octave G is played, and this ensures the pin key will never 'hold off' the G key.
So many people get this buffer wrong - even some repairers.
Sticking with the pin key, there needs to be a buffer between the longer lower arm and the G key foot, otherwise there'll be a clank every time the two keys meet.
This is very much a sliding connection - as the G foot rises it pushes the pin arm up and backwards. However, it's not what you'd call a 'delicate' connection, so you'd probably get away with almost any kind of buffer here...but it must be thin. Its thickness will also impact on the size of the buffer beneath the pin - so it's as well to have it in place before you set the thickness of the buffer beneath the pin.
You'll also note that there's the shorter lower arm on the pin, which connects with the upper arm of the touchpiece key. This connection needs to be buffered, but I've chosen to place it on the touchpiece arm...for reasons which will become apparent shortly.

Let's deal with the buffer beneath the G key foot. This is a sliding connection, and despite the relatively high strength of the G key spring as compared to that of the body key (which the G key foot slides over) it's quite surprising how drastic the effect of friction can be on this connection. If at all possible I always prefer felt here, simply because it's super-quiet and resists the tendency of the G key to want to bounce when you let go of it. It was originally kitted out with a piece of cork, and despite many people saying that cork is a poor material to use on sliding joints, it seems to have worked well enough on this mech for the last 90 odd years.
The thickness of this buffer isn't too critical, and you'd more or less use it to set the opening height of the G key. However, because the arm of the pin key rests on the G foot, the thickness of the G key buffer will alter the height that the pin will raise to, which will in turn affect how far the crook key pad opens - unless the buffer between the lower shorter arm of the pin key and the upper arm of the touchpiece comes into play first (phew, told you it was complicated) which case you'd feel a clunk when you played an octave G (really complicated). We'll come back to this clunk a little later.

Now we have to deal with the buffer on the touchpiece upper arm, and this is as important to the functionality of the mech as the spring on the pin key.
I call this buffer 'the great regulator' because if it's even a smidgeon out of spec it will cause huge problems on an active mech.
At rest it need to keep the body octave key pad firmly closed, and it also has to keep a tight rein on the desire of the pin key to rise. Remember that relationship between the buffer beneath the pin and the G key? Well, the same buffer also has a relationship with the touchpiece arm.
If you look closely at the arm you'll see that it sits over and on the body key as well as the shorter lower arm of the pin key. If the buffers (arrowed) aren't set precisely it'll mean that one or other of the keys it holds down will be able to rise slightly. If the pin key is able to rise it's not really much of a deal. It'll only be by a fraction, and if it causes any issues with the crook key opening, you can bend the crook key to compensate for it. If, however, the body key is able to rise, you'll have a significant leak right at the top of the horn...which is never a good thing.

Touchpiece key upper arm buffersSo it's the relationship between the touchpiece upper arm, the body key and the pin key that's critical - and we call this relationship the 'regulation'.
There needs to be a way to adjust this relationship - or to 'regulate' it - and in this instance it's done by altering the thickness of the buffer that's fixed to the underside of the touchpiece arm. You can see that there are two critical points of regulation (arrowed); one above the body key and another above the pin key shorter lower arm.
At present the octave mech is at rest - so the fundamental requirement is that both the body and crook keys are closed. You can see that the touchpiece arm is resting on top of the pin key shorter lower arm, so that takes care of the pin...and because the G key is open, its foot is holding down the body key. If you were to press the G key down, its foot would lift off the body key - and now the touchpiece arm has to take over the job of keeping the body key down.
If you were to reduce the thickness of the buffer on the touchpiece arm above the body key there'd be a gap between the two keys - and because the body key is sprung to rise, it would lift up until it hit the touchpiece arm...and you'd have a leak from the body key pip.
What you'd like to happen is for the touchpiece arm to drop down and take up the gap - but it can't do so because the end of the arm is resting on the pin key's shorter lower arm. If you now reduced the thickness of the buffer above this arm, the touchpiece arm could drop down lower and close the body key.
You'd have corrected the error and 'regulated' the action.

Much the same is true if you increase the thickness of the buffer(s) - it alters the relationship between the keys and the mech will not work properly until you restore the regulation.
That all sounds easy enough - and on a mech like this, of this particular design and in this (good) condition, it can be. However, not all vintage/active mechs are built the same. The sprung pin key on this mech allows for a degree of latitude when setting up the touchpiece arm buffer, but some mechs don't have this feature or even a pin key at all - and that can complicate matters.
You're also likely to find that old mechs are worn, or they've been knocked about a bit - at which point setting up the regulation begins to look more and more like trying to solve a Rubik's cube. Everything you adjust affects everything else, and it just keeps going round in a vicious circle. In some cases the functionality of the mech may boil down to having each of the octave key pad at a very specific thickness.
If even one of the keys has been bent out of its factory alignment (possibly deliberately) it's really going to throw a spanner into the works - and you might never be able to get the thing working until you put the key back where it's supposed to be...and chances are you won't know where that is. You can at least take some small comfort from the fact that such problems regularly confound even experienced repairers.
If nothing else, the takeaway message from the last two paragraphs is that the relationship between the touchpiece arm buffers, the body key and the pin key is central to the entire mech - and every adjustment you make has to be based around it. If you look at a variety of vintage mechs you'll see this same relationship presented in slightly different ways, but they almost always conform to the same design principle of having two buffering points on the touchpiece arm.

Finally we come to the octave key touchpiece buffer itself - the one that sits beneath the bit you press with your thumb.
There's only one critical requirement here and it's that it must be of a thickness that allows the body key to rise to its full height - which is to say that when you're playing an octave G, the body key should rise high enough to touch the G key foot. If it opens any less than this the mech will feel clunky in use, and you may find the notes a little stuffy.
In all likelihood you may need to set the buffer so that the octave key opens further than is necessary - just so the pin key can rise far enough...and all this has to be weighed against how comfortable the touchpiece feels under the thumb if it has to be pressed down a significant distance.


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Regulation buffer/tube missing

You can put regulation buffers and/or tubes in to two categories; there are those that have no critical purpose other than to quieten the noise of what would otherwise be metal-to-metal contact, and there are those without which the mech will function unpredictably or not at all.
In the former case the mech just carries on working - rattling away each time the octave key is pressed. I see a lot of mechs like this, especially on pro players' horns - because the rattling is a mere inconvenience rather than a show-stopping fault. In the latter case the rattling will still be there - but some parts of the mech will now not be able to move as much as they ought to, with the result that one or other of the key cups may not open or close.
So, a rattly mech is a sign that a buffer may have fallen off - though it's also often a sign that the mech needs lubricating.

Pin key buffering corkA modern swivelling mech typically has three main regulation points; a buffer beneath the touchpiece key, to limit how far it can be pressed down; a tube over the lower pin, to allow contact with the touchpiece arm forks without making too much noise and a buffer beneath the pin key, which sets the height of the pin and the touchpiece at rest.
It's this latter buffer that's the most common cause of problems, either because it compresses over time or simply falls off. You can see that the pin is held away from the body by a couple of millimetres or so - and that's usually about as far away as it ever needs to be. If you're getting a nasty clunk and you switch from octave G to A, this cork is likely to be the prime suspect. You can usually replace this buffer without causing any major issues.
On older mechs, however, this buffer may also have a more important role with regard to the internal regulation of the mech, and as such its thickness may be directly linked to the proper opening and closure of the body octave key (see Over-thick buffer beneath pin key).

In an ideal world the mech should be able to function without any of these buffers - it might be noisy and clunky, it might not work terribly well, but it should still work.
In the real world though, many mechs aren't built well enough to cope with the extremes of movement that this would bring, and will lock up completely. Some might only lock up partially - and this can lead to parts of the mech being forced to operate when they shouldn't.
A fair analogy of this effect is the old cartoon comedy routine with the power drill. A hole is being drilling into something, and at some point the drill bit catches. There's a slight pause, and then the drill spins round...along with whoever/whatever is holding it. Things are still going round...but they're the wrong things.

The best way to work out whether a buffer is missing is to understand what each part of the mech does, and to have an understanding of some basic mechanics. I know it sounds very complicated, but a great deal of it is just common sense.
Insulating tape as a bufferFor example, if you find that part of the mech is hitting the body of the sax then it's a done deal that it will make a noise when it does so. This, then, is a likely spot for a buffer.
If one of the keys seems to move quite some way before it contacts another, perhaps a bit of padding between them would help.
Generally-speaking there should be no metal-to-metal contact - save for that on the swivel arm (the central pivot pin and each end of the swivel arm...though even these are sometimes buffered with thin tubes) - and if you find any it's a fair bet that that's the source of your problems.

Missing buffers will need to be replaced - but that's where things really do get rather complicated, because some mechs rely on certain keys moving a very particular distance. No more, no less. Too thin or thick a buffer and everything goes to pot. As with adjusting the spring tension within a mech, it really is a job best left to a professional.
You can, however, experiment with bits of electrical insulating tape. Just wrap the tape around the area where you think the buffer should go, and see how the mech reacts. If all seems well you can remove the tape and fit a thin buffer in its place. If it looks like the buffer needs to be thicker, add another layer of tape and try again.
Replacing a pin buffering tubeFor buffers that need to slide over other keys (quite common on older mechs) you may find that a piece of plain cork generates too much friction, and the mech will stall halfway through its operation. This is why you'll often see synthetic buffers (Teflon sheet, tech cork etc.) fitted to octave mechs - but as a temporary fix you can just pop a drop of oil on the cork. It's not likely to last very long, but it'll certainly get you out of trouble for a few weeks.

Fork and pin connectors are typically buffered with a plastic (usually Teflon) tube, and the only requirement is that the tube must fit on the pin and between the forks. Replacing them is simply a matter of finding a piece of tubing that fits - and a good source of such tubing is plain old heatshrink. It's not as sturdy as Teflon tube, but it tends to be more readily available, it's quieter in use and you don't have to be quite so precise about the size required. You can either use a piece of tube that's a little large and shrink it down with a bit of heat (from a hair dryer or a gas gun, if you have one and are able to use it carefully) or you can find a piece that's a snug fit. You can even stretch a tube that's too small by poking a couple of small screwdriver blades down the tube and prising it apart. If going for the shrink method I recommend placing a very tiny drop of superglue on the pin beforehand. This will prevent the tube from slipping off later...but you'll have to be rather quick when fitting it.
You probably won't need to dismantle any keywork - just push the tube in place and then cut it off flush with the end of the pin. You could cut it to size beforehand, but it tends to make the job rather fiddly.

Loose pin tubeFor tubes that are present, but just about to fall off (a very common problem) - remove them, clean the pin up and degrease it, then pop a drop of superglue on the pin and shove the tube smartly back on to the pin. And I mean smartly... you'll likely only get one shot at it.

Damaged pin buffer tubeYou might also find that while a buffer tube is present, it's nonetheless damaged - and if the damaged portion is right at the point where the two keys rub, it may as well be missing.
It's obviously best to replace damaged tubes, but a bodge can be quite effective. In this instance the pin key buffer tube has torn right at the point where it rubs against the crook key ring. You could pop a drop of superglue on it and press it back into place, but a better bet would be to remove the tube, turn it over and refit it to the that the damaged part lies clear of the contact area. And then you could glue it down for good measure.

Assuming all seems well, you can try oiling the mech to see if that helps - but be careful not to overdo it. Drenching the mech in oil/grease won't help.

Related sections:

Noisy mech
Over-thick buffer beneath pin key

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Over-thick buffer beneath pin key

While this is undoubtedly a fault that can scupper some octave mechs, it's not likely to be one that occurs spontaneously. The various corks, felts and tubes used as buffers within the mech often get thinner over time, or fall off completely...but they seldom grow in size. Hence this problem tends to be confined to mech that have recently been incorrectly tweaked - in other words, someone's done something wrong.
Folded corkHowever, there is one instance in which a buffer can increase in thickness, and that's when part of it comes unglued and folds itself under the remaining cork or felt.

This is a shot of a pin key arm, and if you look closely at the cork fitted to the bottom of it you'll see that the right hand end has come unglued from the arm and has managed to tuck itself under the rest of the corks that's still glued on. So where you previously had a buffer cork of a couple of millimetres, you now have one that's near enough twice as thick.
How significant a problem this is will depend of the design and state of your mech. If there's a lot of wear in the mech, this sudden increase in the buffer thickness may well just be absorbed by the free play - and about the only symptom you might notice is a less responsive mech and perhaps slight loss of tone on some notes.

As for the fix, simply lift the key, roll the cork out flat and re-glue it in position...though you'd be better off replacing it completely. If the rolled-over portion falls off you might find that there's still enough cork remaining to provide buffering for the time being...and there's always the option of carefully slicing the remaining cork off the key, moving it up the key a little and re-glueing it in place.

However, some mechs, particularly older ones or 'active' ones, rely on the pin key resting in a certain position to ensure the body key pad remains closed when the G key is pressed without the octave key (for low G, for example), and in some cases this may mean that the pin key needs to 'float' in mid air with some clearance beneath it - which is to say that its resting position is entirely dependent on other keys that act upon it (typically the G key foot). On such mechs the pin key buffer cork is largely superfluous, and its function (if it even has one at all) is merely to quieten any metal-to-metal contact that may occur due to the key bouncing. An overly-thick pin key buffer here is likely to prevent the body key from closing, and may well have a similar effect on the G key.
The section on bent pin keys goes into a little more detail about this, specifically on an active mech fitted to a vintage Buescher.

Related sections:

Insufficient travel on pin key
Bent pin key

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Body/crook key not rising enough (hissing)

Stuffiness (often accompanied by a hissing sound) in the octaves is often due to insufficient pad clearance over the octave key pips.
Every tonehole on the sax relies on a certain amount of 'venting' in order to produce a clean, clear note - which is to say that there's a relationship between the quality of the note produced and the height of the pad above that note's tonehole. It's not a particularly critical relationship, but a pad that sits too closely over the tonehole may result in a stuffy tone and a slightly flattened note - and one that sits too high may result in some instability in the note and perhaps a touch of sharpness.
But there's plenty of room for manoeuvre; on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is a pad closed against the tone hole and 10 is the most open a key can be (i.e. with no buffer corks fitted to the key foot), then the 'ideal' venting height would be in the region of 4 to 7.
Thus you can set the venting to suit the horn or the player's preference. Some may favour a low action, with the slight loss of tone being an acceptable trade-off for a faster feel to the action - and some may favour a very open action, so as to get the maximum clarity from each note at the expense of a little dexterity.

And so it is with the octave key pads - though because the toneholes are so small the actual difference between positions 4 and 7 (as described above) may be barely a couple of millimetres - but while it's true to say that having the pad set too low may cause some tonal problems, it's rather less likely that having it set too high (higher than '7') will.
The ideal height is generally around 3 or 4mm. If the crook key pad opens much more than this then there's a good chance that you have 'wasted motion' in your octave key mechanism...which usually means that you're having to press the thumb key down a lot further than needs be.

Bear in mind that it's not a given that a lack of octave key venting will cause problems - plenty of horns work just fine with less venting, but it's very much dependent on the horn and/or the player and their mouthpiece.
You can test if the venting is the cause of your problems by playing a suitable note in the octave range and have an assistant gently raise the relevant octave key cup. Even if the body key appears to be fully open, poking a pencil under the arm of the cup (not under the pad) will gain you another millimetre or so - which is usually enough to confirm/discount any problems. The crook key can simply be lifted by hand.

Octave key touchpiece buffersThe opening height of the body octave key is dependent on the 'throw' of the octave thumb key (the distance it can be pushed down) and/or the distance the G key foot rises when the G key is closed. Press the G key down then press the octave key and note how far the body octave key rises. If it touches the G key foot before you've completely depressed the thumb key then it's the G key foot that's limiting its opening. If you can depress the octave key fully before the body octave key touches the G key foot then it's the thumb key that's determining how far the key opens.
If the G key is the 'limiter' then the way to increase the opening of the body octave key will be to increase the amount the G key foot rises. This can be done by reducing the thickness of the buffer on the G key foot (relatively easy job) or by bending the foot upwards (not so easy, best left to a repairer). Either way it will raise the G key action...and that may not be a good thing.

If the thumb key is the limiter it may be rather more difficult to increase its throw.
There are typically two places where the thumb key contacts the body of the horn; beneath the touchpiece and/or beneath the lever arm that connects the thumb key to the octave mech.
Press the thumb key down and note where it contacts the body. If you're lucky the only point of contact will be beneath the touchpiece. If you're even luckier there will be a rather thick piece of cork or felt acting as a buffer. To increase the throw of the key, sand or shave a little off the buffer. If it's a very thin buffer it might not be possible (or worthwhile) removing any material, and you'll be better off bending the touchpiece up a little. As before, this is a job best left to a repairer - and you should bear in mind that it will mean the touchpiece will sit slightly higher than before. Ergonomically-speaking this is usually not a good thing.
If the point of contact is beneath the lever arm then your options are limited to adjusting the thickness of the buffer between it and the body of the horn. It's possible to bend the lever arm, but this is very definitely not a job to take lightly (take it to a repairer).

Another way to increase the throw of a modern swivelling mech is to thin out the buffer beneath the pin key. This will lower the pin key and raise the thumb key, which in turn allows the body key to open more. However, this is messing with the internal regulation of the mech and may result in unexpected and unwanted behaviour - so I wouldn't recommend it as a home fix.

Gap between pin and ringIncreasing the opening height of the crook key cup is an easier job - simple a matter of bending the key - but you first have to determine whether or not it will make any difference. Just as the opening height of the body key was dependent on the throw of the thumb key or the G key foot, so the crook key is dependent on the throw of the octave key pin.
With the instrument assembled and the crook lined up in its usual playing position, note the size of the gap between the crook key ring and the octave key pin.

It should be around 1mm - if it's any more than this then there's a chance that bending the crook key to close this gap will give you a bit more clearance at the pip.
Now gently press the octave key and watch what happens to the gap between the pin and the ring. As you depress the thumb key the pin should rise, make contact with the ring and then open the crook key. Pay particular attention to the moment where the pin contacts the ring. Is there any lost motion in the rest of the octave key mechanism...are you able to press the thumb key down a little way further before the pin begins to raise the crook key?
If so this is typical of wear in the mechanism - and this lost motion will limit the effectiveness of bending the crook key, and you might have better results getting the mechanism tightened up.

Assuming all is well, though, and you have a 1mm gap between the ring and the pin, increasing the throw of the crook key will be entirely dependent on increasing the throw of the thumb key (as above). If, however, the gap is larger than 1mm - and there's no appreciable lost motion in the mechanism - you may well find that bending the crook key will give you the results you're looking for.

As for how to do this, and what problems might arise from it (there's always something, isn't there?) see the section on bending the crook key.

With all that said, it's sometimes possible to experience hissing in spite of the octave mech being in good order. Some horns are just plain hissy, and some mouthpiece/reed combinations can highlight the issue.
It may also be be down to the choice of pad material. Cork octave key pads are a popular option these days - they're hard-wearing and tend not to stick, but some players find that they increase the amount of octave key hiss. A cork pad with a domed face may help, as might a synthetic pad - such as one made from Sugru. It can also be the case that a leather pad has got rather hard with age, and this too can lead to hissing.
If in doubt, swap it out.

Related sections:

Insufficient travel on pin key
Bent crook key

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Bent crook key

A bent crook key is by far and away the most common cause of octave key mech problems, and in almost every case the cause of it will be incorrect handling of the crook. When fitting the crook to the horn, many players will casually wrap a hand around the crook and press/turn the crook into the body. If the palm of the hand presses down hard enough on the octave key, it'll splay it out - and this usually means that the crook pad will no longer close onto the octave key pip. It can also lead to pulldown, where the tubing of the crook itself gets bent. You'll find details of a safe grip at the end of this section.

In some instances the key gets bent when the crook is taken out of the case - and I've actually seen people lift it out by the key. And then there's just bad luck or a bit of knock.
But don't despair, it's something that happens to the best of us at one point or another. Even quite experienced players can get caught out - it just takes a moment's inattention or perhaps an unfamiliar horn and've bent the crook key. Fortunately it's rarely a difficult problem to solve once you've diagnosed it.

People (like me) generally refer to bending a crook key up or down - but it's more accurate to refer to bending the key open or closed. This is because the key typically forms a C shape - by compressing the ends of the key you can make the C smaller, or by pulling them apart you make the C larger...and in each case this will affect the resting position of both the pad and the key's ring.
While it's the case that most (intentional) bending of the key is to do with restoring functionality to the octave key mech, it's also the case that bending the key can improve the feel of the mech. Too much of a gap between the pin key and the ring can lead to an unresponsive and clunky mech - whereas too little can cause unexpected opening of the crook key.

Let's begin with some diagnosis.

Crook key held offA crook key that's been bent up (or open) is usually pretty easy to spot because when the crook is fitted to the horn, the octave key pad doesn't close over the pip. The bend has expanded the C shape and the ring makes contact with the octave key pin way before the pad reaches the pip.

As you can see, it's pretty obvious...once it's been pointed out to you.
However, this is a reasonably severe example - and the functionality of the octave mech will be just as impaired if the pad is held off by only a tiny, barely visible amount - so if you're in any doubt about the state of the key, you'll need to test it.
A play test is simple enough - just play and hold any note below top A with your left hand, and gently press the crook key pad with your right. If the crook key pad is being held off a tiny amount, the pressure of your finger on it will be enough to close it, and you should notice an immediate increase in the strength of your tone and the ease of playing. Try the test playing a low G followed by an octave G, as it's sometimes easier to hear/feel the difference in one or other of the octaves.

The feeler testIf that doesn't work for you, the cigarette paper test will. This simply involves putting a cigarette paper between the octave key pip and the pad (with the horn assembled), letting the key drop down and then gently pulling the paper out. You should feel some resistance. It won't be much, but it'll definitely be there. If you haven't got a cigarette paper handy you can use a thin piece of cellophane. At this stage it's a fairly crude test, and even a piece of writing paper will probably do. Try doing the test with the crook off the horn first...just to give you an idea of how much drag the pad exerts on the paper, then fit it to the horn and test it again.
If you feel no resistance it's a dead cert that the pad's being held off - but if you feel it's a bit of a borderline call, your next point of diagnosis is where the pin key meets the crook key ring. Be aware, though, that this test can be fooled by a pad that doesn't seat all the way round - and while you have the feeler in your hand you might as well go through the process of testing for a leaking pad at the same time.

Pin/ring key gapWhat you're looking for here is a tiny gap between the pin and the ring when the crook is in its playing position, as shown in the photo on the left. It's not much, maybe a millimetre or so. If there's no gap it means there's a good chance that the pin is preventing the crook key pad from fully closing. On a really well set up horn this gap might barely be visible - in which case you can use the cigarette paper, placed between the pin and the ring, to test for clearance.

One gotcha to watch out for is a key that's been bent so that part of it touches the crook. It's usually pretty easy to spot this, and it'll typically be at the rear of the ring where it curves up the crook, but a simple and effective test is to take the crook off the horn, hold it by the mouthpiece cork, lift the octave key pad and let it fall. I call this the drop-down test. If you hear a ding it may mean that part of the key is hitting the crook. It may also mean that the key just needs oiling, or that the barrel is so worn that the key is able to wobble about.

And now for a crook key that's been bent down (or closed).
This is a bit trickier to diagnose because it'll pass the drop-down test and it'll pass the cigarette paper under the pad test - and it's where the ring key meets the pin where all the problems will be found.
The big give-away here is going to be a very noticeable gap between the pin key and the ring.

Crook key bent closedUnlike the crook key that's been bent up, this problem can have degrees of severity. At its worst the crook key will completely fail to open - and on some horns this will also mean that the body octave key won't open either (the opening force being provided by the crook key) - but with a less severe bend it might mean that the octave key pads are able to open partially. You'll get some functionality, but the mech will feel clunky and the tone production will be poor (and often accompanied by a hissing sound).

Having figured out that the crook key is bent, and in which direction, it's time to look at how to remedy the situation.
Bending keys is never a job you should take on lightly. Not only is there a very real risk of making things worse, there's also the slim chance that it will go catastrophically wrong and you'll end up with a broken key.
It has to be said, though, that you'd really have to go at it hammer and tongs to break the crook key. We're not talking about wrenching bits of metal here...rather it's more a case of gently easing the key back into the required shape. I might have to bend the key back and forth half a dozen times before I get it to where I want it, and I've never yet broken one. That's not to say it can't happen though - but if it does there's a good chance that there was a crack in the key and it was always going to break sooner or later anyway. This won't be the end of the world, but it will mean having to shell out money to have someone fix it.

I should also say that it's not always the case that bending a key is the solution to the problem you're having, even when it appears to be - so take your time with the diagnosis.
With that dire warning in mind, you'll be relieved to hear that bending a crook key is really quite simple once you know what to do and how to do it - and that it's a technique that ought to be as familiar to sax players as changing a reed.

First up, we're going to look at bending the crook key down - or compressing/closing it - to correct the problem of the crook key failing to close properly.

Another reason for compressing the key is to increase the size of the gap between the pin and the ring when the keys are at rest. The lack of a sufficient gap can sometimes be a problem because, under certain circumstances, the pin key can move slightly - even when it's not supposed to. This can be down to friction, or poor build quality or just plain old wear and tear - and it can sometimes be the case that although there's a gap when the mech is at rest, there isn't one when its in use.
With the horn assembled, finger a G and press the octave key. Watch the crook key pin - it shouldn't move at all, or at worst only very slightly. If it rises to contact the ring it might mean that it's just down to friction in the mech, and there won't be enough power in it to open the crook key. Try pushing the pin gently down - you should feel no resistance.
You can also try lifting the crook key and letting it fall back down. You might hear a little 'ding' as the ring hits the pin - but if you lift and drop the crook key again, you shouldn't hear a ding (because it should have knocked the pin down).

If the pin rises enough to open the crook key, or you get that ding on the second drop, you've probably got a bit of unwanted movement in the octave key mech - and the proper fix for this would be to have it repaired. In the meantime, though, you can compress the crook key so that when the ring is at rest, it's clear of the pin's maximum point of unwanted movement.

Closing octave keyCrook key designs vary, so you'll have to adapt this technique to suit - but the essential principle is this. The key is opened, something is placed beneath the ring section to prevent the key from closing and pressure is applied over the key cup. In this shot I'm using my thumb to hold the key open. This provides an ideal soft surface against the crook tube and a reasonably firm surface (the thumb nail/bone) against the ring. It both helps to prevent damage to the tube, and helps to limit the amount of pressure applied to the pad cup...mostly because it bloody hurts. If the pain is too much to bear, wrap some cloth around your thumb or wear thick gloves.
To apply pressure to the key cup I've got my thumb under the crook tube and my forefinger on top of the key so that I can apply a squeezing force.

The big question hard should you press the key cup down?
There's no real answer to that one, I'm afraid - how hard you'll need to press will depend on the stiffness and design of the key, and it's the sort of thing you can only gauge by experience (and even then it's largely guesswork). So, go gently. The key will probably be quite springy - which means going too lightly will do nothing at all. So be firm, but cautious - do a little, check a little. If nothing seems to be moving, give it bit more welly - and if that doesn't work, give it even more (and by now your thumb will be really sore).
Some keys can be very tough indeed, but with this method of bending you're very unlikely to do any real damage (bruises aside).
Horns with pseudo-underslung crook keys (where part of the key goes under the crook but the octave key pad sits on top of the tube, such as on Yanagisawas) can be very hard to be prepared for a bit of swearing.
On no account should you do away with the thumb and replace it with anything else (bits of plastic/wood etc.), because it can all go very badly wrong very quickly indeed.

What you're aiming to achieve is for the ring key to be around 1-2mm away from the pin key when at rest. If your mech's a good one, 'at rest' will mean whenever the crook key isn't in play - if the mech has a few problems then 'at rest' will have to take any unwanted movement of the pin key into account. This may mean having to settle for a wider gap when the octave mech is truly at rest, which will mean a slightly more clunky action when going straight from a lower octave note to one that uses the crook key (say middle C to top C).
If you've overdone the bending (and it's not uncommon, even for a pro), you'll need to open the key up a tad...

Opening octave keyOpening out the crook key is much the same as compressing it, with the force being applied in the opposite direction - and this time it's applied to the ring.
As before, a thumb is used to protect one end of the key - the key cup end.
Lift the key and place your thumb over the octave key pip and let the pad come to rest on top of your thumb. This will raise the ring and give you more room for bending it, and it'll also prevent the octave key pad from being squashed onto the pip - which won't do the pad any good at all.

Pressure is applied to the ring in a downward/backward plane. Simply pulling the ring down will work, but this lowers the ring's position on the pin key and can sometimes lead to problems.
It looks like you could just pull the pad cup arm upwards - and this too will work, but it's more likely to put an unattractive bend in the cup arm and there's the potential to drive the back of the ring into the crook tube.
How much pressure to apply is uncertain as it was when compressing the key, but opening the key out is usually a little easier than compressing it.

And as before, fit the crook to the body and check as you go along. You'll probably find you need to cycle between compressing and opening the key a few times before you get it just where you want it - and you might find it more effective to 'pulse' the pressure for finer adjustments rather than giving the key a single, solid squeeze. You can also take a look at the article on making and fitting synthetic octave key pads, which contains a section on bending the octave key - and shows a couple of variations on the two grips mentioned above.

Alto crook gripSomething to bear in mind when adjusting the key is your playing position - specifically the position you usually put the crook in prior to playing.
The crook key ring is supposed to allow for a little variation in the angle of the crook (you might, for example, turn the crook round a little more when playing in a seated position). Ideally the gap between the pin and the ring should remain unchanged no matter what angle you put the crook at (within reason), but some rings are better made than others (or haven't been squashed out of round) and you might find that the size of the gap varies with the crook position. If so you'll have to set it at the most extreme position you're likely to use and put up with a slightly larger gap in any other position. See the section on distorted rings for more details.

Tenor crook gripAs mentioned at the start of this section, it's important to get into the habit of forming a good grip when fitting, removing or adjusting the crook.
There are many variation on the theme, but the vital points of consideration are that little or no pressure is applied to the crook key and the downward/upward force should be as close to the tenon sleeve as possible.

The grip shown here probably looks much like the grip you're already using, but the detail is in the point of pressure. The forefinger and thumb have a good grip on the tube - as does the crooked little finger (against the fleshy part of the base of the finger on the other side of the tube). Anything inbetween is relaxed and loose.
It's a little like picking up a cactus, or a bramble or rose stem. You find a couple of clear spots where you can get a grip, and the middle of your hand instinctively arches upwards to avoid getting stabbed by a spine or a thorn.
All of the pushing/pulling force is applied via the forefinger and thumb. The little finger provides stability and sideways force so that you're able to slightly twist the crook back and forth while fitting or removing it.

An easy way to test whether you've got the right grip is to operate the crook key with your other hand. It should be free to move. It won't move much as it'll hit your hand almost immediately, but it at least tells you that there's little or no downward pressure on the key. And because your little finger is crooked underneath the crook tube there'll be little or no downward force on that end of the crook.

Related sections:

Body/crook key not rising enough (hissing)
Bent pin key
Ring distorted
Leaking octave key pad

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Pulldown means you have a bent crook - and as the term suggest, it's bent downwards.
TJ RAW crook with pulldownThis is quite a common problem, and aside from damage due to an obvious impact it usually comes about due to excessive force when fitting the mouthpiece or when fitting the crook to the horn.
More often than not the only visible sign is that the crook key won't close - which leads to most players suspecting the problem is just a bent octave key. However, a trained eye can usually spot a slightly bent crook - it often just 'looks wrong'.
This TJ RAW crook has copped a whack and is showing very typical signs of pulldown. Take a look at the section of tube just below the crook key's pillar- notice the way the light catches it. It's quite a subtle thing, but if you hold the crook level in your hands and tilt it to and fro in the light you'll see that the reflection behaves differently when it hits the peak of what's now an oval tube.
You should be able to feel the pulldown too, by gently pinching the crook tube between your finger and thumb and rotating it while feeling for a slight ovalness. For comparison, pinch the tube just after the mouthpiece cork and see how it feels - then go back to the suspected oval section and note how it feels like your fingers are being pushed slightly apart as you rotate the tube.

There may also be small signs of damage...such as a slight indentation in the tube between the tenon sleeve and the end of the brace that runs underneath the crook. Sometimes it can be rather more obvious, such as on this Yanagisawa alto crook, where you can clearly see a hefty crease beneath the tip of the brace.

There's no home fix for this, it'll require some extremely careful manipulation of the crook - and if you get it wrong the potential for disaster is enormous. You can, however, compensate for the pulldown by bending the octave key - but while this will work, it leaves the tip of the crook at a lower angle than before and this can sometimes lead to aches in the neck and back as well as embouchure problems. It may also have some slight impact on tuning, though this is rare for small amounts of pulldown.
It's worth bearing in mind that once a crook has been pulled down, it tends thereafter to be more prone to it even when fixed - and this is because the structural integrity of the tube has suffered. Not a lot you can do about this, other than to be careful when putting the mouthpiece on or assembling the horn.

Prevention is better than cure, and what really helps is having a correctly-sized and greased mouthpiece cork. A very general rule of thumb is that the mouthpiece should slide freely to around halfway onto the cork before it starts to snug up, and thereafter requires merely a moderate twist and push to secure it in the playing position. If it doesn't go on smoothly then you probably need to grease the cork, and if it binds it may mean the cork is too thick. You might also find it helpful to fit the mouthpiece to the crook before fitting the crook to the horn.

Pullup is the reverse, and is much rarer - and usually only happens due to an impact. However, some players are in the habit of lifting their horns off their stands by the crook...which is just asking for trouble. Aside from bending the octave key up to compensate, the fix for this is the same as pulldown.

For details of a safe grip to use when fitting/removing the crook, see the end of the article on bent crook keys.

Related sections:

Bending the crook key

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Bent pin key

Bent pin keys account for a sizeable proportion of octave mech problems, simply because the pin itself is extremely vulnerable to damage - almost all of which happens when the horn is being placed in or removed from the case. This is why all horns come supplied with an end cap - which is, typically, a small plastic plug that fits into the top of the body tube. This prevents the pin, which would otherwise be sticking out a centimetre or so, from getting caught up in the case liner or from impacting against the side wall of the case.
As a general rule of thumb the octave key pin should lie parallel to and in line with the centre of the body tube. If that sound confusing, place a mug on a table and stand a pencil upright next to it (or just take a peek at some of the photos in this article). This is the 'technically correct' position of the pin, but it's not uncommon to find that it's sometimes sitting a little off line - and by little I mean a couple of degrees. It may have been built this way, or it may have been deliberately bent for some reason (as a quick fix or to overcome another problem within the mech). This isn't usually anything to worry about, though further testing will reveal if it's a problem.

If the pin is bent more than a couple of degrees it's highly likely to have an adverse effect on the mech, with this effect being more severe the greater the degree of bend.
The plane in which the pin is bent will usually determine how the mech fails. If it's bent to either side it will make the operation of the mech highly dependent on the angle of the crook (and thus the position of the crook key ring). This might mean that your octave mech won't work with the crook in its usual position...but if you move it to one side you might find it starts to work again.
Bent pin keyHere the pin has been bent to the left, and you can see the original position of the pin in translucent red. Because the height the pin stands off the body hasn't changed, there's half a chance that the mech will still work. There's usually a gap of a millimetre or so between the pin and the ring, which is sometimes just enough to accommodate the change in geometry - but this really depends on how far the pin has been bent and how circular the ring is (and most of them aren't all that circular). A temporary fix for this would be to bend the crook key down a little, or simply to adjust the angle of the crook.
Note where the pin itself rises out of the key arm (bottom right of shot), and note too the position of the strengthening brace fitted to the underside of the crook. If you were looking at this setup straight on you'd see that the end of the brace would line up with the tip of the pin, which would line up with the point where the pin meets its key arm.
Not all horns are built like this - but where they are it's a handy rough-and-ready reference to how straight the pin is.

If the pin is bent up or down it's rather more likely to stop the mech dead in its tracks. A pin that's bent up can hold the crook key open all the time, and this'll mean it'll be all but impossible to play any note below octave A without sounding like a duck with a sore throat. The quick fix for this is to bend the crook key down (or closed). This will restore the necessary clearance between the pin and the ring, and all should be well.
However, bear in mind that some mechs rely on the pin key resting a certain height above the body, and if this dimension has changed you could well find that the body octave key opens unexpectedly. Much will depend on where the pin key's buffer cork is placed. In the shot you can see that the cork is fitted beneath the pin key arm - so unless the arm itself is bent, there's a good chance that the rest of the mech will remain unaffected by the bent pin.

A pin that's been bent down will result in a dramatic increase in the distance between the pin and the ring when the mech is at rest. It could just mean that the crook key rises only very slightly, or it could mean that this distance is large enough to take up all of the throw of the octave mech, which would mean that the crook key would never rise. It can also result in the mech's touchpiece being moved closer to the body (thus further reducing the throw) and the body octave key opening when it shouldn't. A quick fix, assuming the only problem appears to be the failure of the crook key to open, would be to bend the crook key up a little.
Again, keep in mind that the resting height of the pin key could affect other parts of the mech - and with the pin itself being bent down it may well contact the body (or the crook) before the buffer cork on the pin key does...thus raising the resting height.

Buescher octave mechThe shot on the right shows a Buescher alto mech, and being a vintage horn its mech is 'active'. In this instance the pin key is sprung so that it always wants to rise - and is prevented from doing so by being held down by either the G key foot or the thumb key. As far as the thumb key is concerned its 'holding force' is applied via a stub attached to the pin key (in red). While the key is at rest it's in contact with the pin key's stub and the body octave key (as ringed in the centre). The G key acts on another, smaller, stub (as ringed on the right) - when G is pressed, its foot rises and butts up against this stub, thus preventing the pin key from rising. All of these relationships are critical, and have to be precisely balanced at all times.
If the pin key was to be bent down it would act like the thickness of the buffer cork beneath the pin had been increased, and this in turn would raise the height of that red stub. Because the arm from the thumb key rests on it, the arm would also be raised - and it would no longer rest on the body key...which would open.
The bend would also lower the smaller stub - and as you pressed the G key its foot would rise and meet the stub rather sooner than expected. It wouldn't be able to move the pin key (because it's already resting on the body) and this would prevent the G key pad from closing properly. In other words, the mech's now completely out of balance - and neither it or the horn will work again until the pin key has been put back into its proper position.

And all of the above assumes that the mech still works - but it's entirely possible that the pin key is now binding on its which case it's game over, and nothing's going to work until you get the mech straightened and freed up. Such collateral damage notwithstanding, the solution to a bent pin key is obvious: bend it back to its proper position.
What's not so obvious is how much damage you can do by attempting to realign the pin key. At best you might chew up the metal because you don't have the right tools for the job, and at worst you could snap the pin key off the mech - especially if it's a screw-in one (see the section on Broken Pin Keys).

Bent Buescher pin keyAnd it's not always the case that it's the pin that bent, rather it's the arm to which its attached. No problem then - just bend the key arm, right? Again, you run the risk of chewing up the metal, but there's also a risk that in bending the key arm you might distort the barrel on which its mounted...which may already have been distorted by the impact that bent the pin key in the first place. And, as many a DIYer has discovered, bending a bent key back into place often results in simply putting another bend in the key. By far the most common example of this annoying phenomenon is that of an enthusiastic parent trying to straighten out a flute that their kid has just sat on. What was a nasty-looking but nonetheless gentle bend - and one that's easily dealt with when you know what you're doing - turns into a double bend...complete with a nasty crease in the body (usually around a tonehole). Much wailing and wallet-emptying will ensue. If you feel you're up to bending the pin I'd recommend you read through the section on dealing with distorted rings first, as it contains more details about the geometry of this particular part of the mech - but my advice would be to leave well alone and take comfort in the fact that you've successfully diagnosed the problem...and give your repairer a call.

Various endplugs/capsIt will also pay you to try working out exactly how the pin got bent. If you dropped the horn on the floor, then stood on it, that's likely to be a dead give-away...but maybe it was OK yesterday and now suddenly it's not. This usually means there's been a problem while putting the horn away or taking it out of the case, and it's nearly always because the end plug/cap was missing.

The end plug fulfils two functions; it keeps the dust and fluff out of the crook receiver and it protects the pin key from getting caught in the lining of the case and being bent. It also protects the pin if the horn rattles around in the case. You'd be surprised at just how much force goes through the horn if you, say, knock your case against a door frame. There'll be a few kilogrammes of brass moving at around 3 mph that suddenly comes to a complete stop...and if the pin key isn't protected and prevented from colliding with the wall of the case, it'll take the full force of the impact.
If you haven't got an end plug, go buy one - they're cheap enough. A basic plastic one will do, as long as it's a snug fit in the receiver. A loose one is next to useless, as you'll get tired of the thing always falling out...and either it gets lost or ends up rattling around in the accessory compartment because it's too much bother. If you use a shove-it type swab it'll probably have a built-in end plug - and if you want something a little more upmarket you can always ask your repairer to knock you up a custom plug on the lathe. This won't cost a great deal and it'll be a perfect fit for your horn and the case...and as daft as it sounds, you might find you grow rather attached to it. If you're a bit of a cheapskate you can make your own end plug out of an old champagne cork...though you might have to go through a few bottles before you find a cork that's large enough (there's always a downside, eh?).
One last tip - never tighten the crook receiver screw against the end plug. You'll end up stretching the receiver, which leads to a loose crook and thus a leak.

Related sections:

Body key not closing
Over-thick buffer beneath pin key
Ring distorted

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Broken pin key

Selmer BA alto pin keyOf itself, an octave mech problem due to a broken pin key is pretty rare. It's far more likely that any impact sufficient to break the pin will bend the key. However, it does happen from time to time and can usually be traced to a previously bent pin that was hurriedly straightened...which resulted in a crack in the pin. Such a repair will last for a while, but the next knock might be enough to shear the pin off.
You might also come across pins that are screwed into the key arm (this one's fitted to a Selmer Balanced Action alto), and if the thread loosens up it's entirely possible for the pin to work its way free over time.
Broken pin with extension tubeThere's not a lot you can do about a broken pin, other than to have a new one fitted - but a get-you-out-of-trouble fix is to fit a length of stiff tubing over the remaining stub. It needs to be reasonably stiff else it'll simply bend when it tries to open the crook key. A small nail pushed into the tube may help to stiffen it up. Car windscreen washer tubing is ideal, though you might need a drop of glue to help prevent it from slipping off.
If there's no stub, or only a very small one, you're a bit stuffed.
As for screw-in pins, things are little easier. It's generally not too much trouble to remove any stub that might remain, and once that's done it's a simple enough job to make a new bolt to replace the broken one. Which is just as well, because pins like these tend to be a bit fragile.

Players who've bought new crooks may sometimes find that the pin key is too short to contact the ring of the crook key.
In this instance it might be possible to bend the crook key to bring the ring into play - but so doing usually throws out the geometry of the key, and you have to resort to bending the pad cup arm to correct it. This is fairly advanced key bending, and is best left to a professional.
Another solution is to have an extension fitted to the pin key - and if it's done properly it should mean that you'll still be able to use the original crook (which is particularly important for players who've bought alternative crooks rather than replacement ones). The windscreen washer tube trick may also work, and if you like switching between various crooks it's possible to have a set of removable sleeves made up to suit each crook.

Related sections:

Bent pin key

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Ring distorted

A distorted crook key ring can have unpredictable effects on the functionality of the octave mech depending on precisely how and where it's been bent out of shape.
This is distinct from a ring that's too high or low due to a bent crook key - and refers more to the shape of the ring rather than its position. The unpredictability comes about because there may be some positions of the crook where the relationship between the pin and the ring is just fine, and others where it's not. You might find the horn works fine when you're playing in a standing position, but when you sit down to play and move the crook slightly to the side, the octave mech no longer works.

To understand the nature of the problem we must first understand how the ring key works when it's in good shape.
In an ideal world the ring should form part of a perfect circle. The pin key sits close to the inner diameter, and no matter what position you put the crook in, the relationship between the pin and ring remains the same.
In the real world octave key rings are seldom completely circular - and there's really no need for them to be because the average player is only going to want to move the crook a limited distance away from its central point...which, for the sake of argument, can be thought of as having the mouthpiece cork roughly in line with the thumb hook (note, not the octave key thumb rest...which is usually offset to the left).
From this position a player might move the crook a little to the left or the right for the sake of comfort, and perhaps a bit further to accommodate different playing positions (such as sitting down). Going much beyond this would suggest a very unusual playing position, and there's a chance you'd need to have the ring specifically tailored to your needs. The amount you can move the crook and still maintain the functionality of the octave mech is called the swing.
Before we get started on the diagnosis, there's something we have to be sure of - and that's the state of the pin key. Is it straight and in line with the body of the horn? If the pin key is bent it'll duplicate many of the symptoms common to a distorted ring, and while you may well be able to fix those symptoms by moving the ring around you'll be better off putting the pin right.

Pin key normal positionHere's the crook in its normal position. The red mark on the ring lies directly over the centre of the pin. Note the small gap between the pin and the ring - this is very important.
Octave mech are seldom very precise - and even if they start out that way, they soon begin to wear. So this little gap is a margin of error - it's small enough not to cause any noticeable clunkiness in operation, and large Pin key bent leftenough to ensure that when the pin key is at rest it can't hold the crook key open. It also allows for a little stiffness or temporary binding in the mech which might otherwise briefly lift the crook key a fraction - which usually results in a very unexpected squeak.
With this setup everything's right with the world, and any bum notes you play on the gig are going to be down to your lack of practice (or the amount of beer you've had).

Now the crook's been tilted to the left (as you hold the horn in front of you). You might favour this position if you're in the habit of slinging the bell at an angle across your stomach, which reduces the risk of a nasty accident when you're doing a spot of marching band work.
Note the new position of the red mark, and note too how that gap between the pin and the ring has all but disappeared. It's just about there...but only just, and this position represents the extreme at which the octave mech will remain functional. Move the crook any further to the left and you'll effectively run out of the ring's circularity...and the pin will force the crook key open.

Pin key bent rightThis time the crook's been moved the same distance to the right. This is a very common position for seated players, where the bell rests on the right thigh.
Again, you can see how far the red mid point has moved, and you can also see that there's still a gap between the pin and the ring. It's a little larger than when the crook was tilted to the left, and that's because this ring is ever so slightly out of round. Not by much, and not by enough to be of concern - but enough to serve as an example of how the circularity of the ring can affect the mech's operation.

You should be able to see that's it possible, and quite easy, to check the geometry of the crook key ring simply by fitting the crook to the horn, centring it and then then turning it from side to side while keeping an eye on its position relative to the pin key. You're almost certain to see some change in the relationship, but provided the gap between the pin and the ring doesn't disappear or increase dramatically you're not likely to have any problems with this part of the mech...assuming the rest of it's in good order.

When the ring gets bent it throws the geometry out, and one of three things is likely to happen; the gap between the pin and the ring disappears, the gap increases in size...or the whole ring gets shunted to one side, which could close the gap or increase it depending on which direction the ring goes.

Octave key ring geometryHere's a simplified diagram showing the effects of the most common ring distortions.
The good ring is just fine - you can swing the crook from side to side at your leisure and the mech will still work.
A squashed ring usually results in an increased gap between the pin and the ring. The mech might still work but it'll feel clunky, and the opening heights of the octave pads will be reduced. You can correct this by bending the crook key - which will leave you with the situation in the diagram. This ring will work within a very limited swing. A dead centre position is fine, but it you swing the crook even a small amount you'll lose the gap and the crook key pad will be forced open.

A flattened ring usually leaves you with no gap between the pin and the ring - and in most cases it means the crook key is already being held open.
Again, bending the crook key will sort this out - and in the position shown you're still likely to have enough swing to get by.

An offset ring is a bit of a wild card because its effects will vary depending on which direction the ring has been pushed. In this case it's copped a shove to the right and it's closed the gap between the pin and the ring. As before, you can remedy this by bending the crook key, but this will leave you with a mech that can only be swung one way (in this case, to the player's right). If you swing it left you'll run the pin straight into the ring and force the crook key open.
But this assumes a simple left or right offset - the ring could quite easily go another way. Forwards, backwards, a bit forward and a bit to the side etc...
In such cases I'd recommend focussing on fixing the gap between the pin and the ring before attempting to move the ring in any other direction. And keep in mind that if the ring looks more or less central on the pin, but with no or a large gap, then you're simply dealing with a bent crook key rather than an offset ring.

DIY fixes? You need to be very careful before tackling a distorted ring, because it's often the case that the damage will be a combination of issues. The ring might be squashed, but also offset - or it might be flattened at an well as being offset. And on top of all that, the crook key will probably be bent too.
If you have a vintage horn it's quite likely to have a very simple crook key - just a single key arm with a relatively thin ring fitted to it. You'll probably get away with bending this type of key without too much fuss. But if your crook key has two arms that rise up to attach to the pad cup arm, you'll find it's a great deal more difficult to move. Similarly, semi-underslung crook keys (such as those found on Yanagisawas) will be a real pig to shift without the aid of some tools - and once you take a tool to a key, you're messing in the big league - and it can all go very badly wrong very quickly.
You might also have to contend with a key guide - a U-shaped channel fitted to the crook, in which the crook key sits. Any bending you do will have to take into account the need for the key arm to clear the sidewalls of this channel, otherwise it'll bind.
My advice is to do what you can to get the horn going for the gig, if needs be, and let your repairer sort it out once the emergency's over.

At this point I should imagine that some of you are looking a your crook keys and thinking "But mine looks nothing like that!".
The ring, despite its name, doesn't have to be a ring. Some horns have just a section of a ring...a piece of curved rod about a couple of centimetres long. Some may have slightly curved flat piece of metal.
In every case the same principles apply to these keys as to the standard ring design - but by being that much smaller they're often more difficult to move around...though it's fair to say that they're also less likely to get bent in the first place.

When it comes to baritone saxes, all bets are off. There may be no ring at all - or what passes for a ring might be fitted to the pin key...and the crook key might not even be on the crook itself.
The same principles still apply, though - but the best way to deal with a bent bari mech is to A: swear a bit and B: Call your repairer. You have been warned.

Related sections:

Bent pin key
Insufficient travel on pin key

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Crook key opening unexpectedly

There are a number of reasons why this can happen; sometimes it's down to wear or free play in the mech, allowing certain parts of the mech to move when they shouldn't. Sometimes it's down to damage, with a misaligned key moving too far or not enough and sometimes it's just down to the build quality of the mech and its geometry. In the first two cases you just need to correct the anomalies and all should be well, but in the last case the fix could be rather more involved.

Card under thumb keyThe most likely cause tends to be a binding mech - and this can be down to damage or the lubricant in the mech having dried out and gone all sludgy. Less common is that one or other of the springs has failed or is incorrectly set. Many mechs rely on a bit of closing force coming from the crook key - it provides resistance against the pin key and diverts power along the path of least resistance...which is typically the body octave key.

Missing corks/buffers are also a common cause, in particular the buffer that regulates the throw of the octave key touchpiece. Some mechs are very tolerant of the amount of throw - but others will only work properly within a defined range of movement. Lose the cork under the thumb key and it might mean the mech gets pushed beyond this which point just about anything could happen. A quick test for this is to find something to stuff beneath the thumb key to limit how far it can be pushed down (a bit of folded card, for example). If the mech now works when the throw is restricted, you've found the problem. If it doesn't, you've got other issues.

Checking the body key rise heightWorn or compressed corks can be a problem, and can often be difficult to detect unless you know what to look for. The older the horn, the less tolerant a mech is likely to be of corks and buffers that sit outside a rather narrow range of thickness - but it can also be a problem on relatively modern horns.
On the right I'm testing the mech on a Yamaha 61 alto. Everything looks fine and moves freely but the notes from mid D to G are rather stiff and unresponsive, and I've traced it to the crook octave key opening ever so slightly when it shouldn't. It's doing so because the buffer beneath the thumb key has worn, and the throw of the key now exceeds what the mech can handle (it's quite a picky mech in this respect).
There are three points of interest. The first is the thumb key, the second is the opening height of the body octave key and the third is the clearance between the pin key and the crook key ring. The G key is pressed and held down, followed by the octave thumb key. As I press this key slowly down I'm watching to see when the body octave key contacts the buffer on the G key's foot. As soon as contact is made my focus shifts back to the thumb key. Am I able to push it down any further? When it comes to a stop, can I push it down still further if I press a little harder?
It seems that I can - at which point the pin key begins to lift the crook key. In this case the movement was noticeable (I could see the crook pad rising), but in some cases it may be difficult to spot any movement. This is where the feeler (a cigarette paper) comes in handy. Placed between the pin and the ring it should remain free to move throughout the entire operation. As soon as you detect the pin gripping the feeler it means the crook key is about to rise.
The fix, in this instance, was to replace the buffer beneath the thumb key with a slightly thicker one. When I repeat the test I now find that the thumb key comes to rest at the moment the body key touches the G key foot, and cannot be forced any further down (with reasonable force). At this point the feeler is still just about free to move - which means that the crook key will not open.
You can hopefully see that there's a relationship between the height the body key opens and the point at which the crook key starts to. Once the body key has opened as far as it's able to, any further movement of the thumb key is unnecessary and likely to cause problems. What this means is that the throw of the G key effectively sets the throw of the octave key mech - and that should you wish to increase the amount that the octave keys open, you'll have to increase the throw of the G key by thinning out the buffer on the G key's foot.
This may or may not be a problem depending how how high or low the rest of the stack keys are set.

Modern swivel mechs are rather more forgiving and will usually tolerate a little extra throw on the thumb key - but the feeler test can still be used. In this case you may notice a little bit of drag on the feeler as the pin comes up against the ring, but it should still be far short of actually gripping it.

Keep in mind that the above also applies to a thumb key that's been bent upwards so that the touchpiece sits too high.
Thumb key bent upwardsAs a general rule of thumb (quite literally), the top of the touchpiece should sit just slightly higher than the top of the thumb rest (the ideal position is shown in the photo on the left). Players will vary in their preference; some like it a little higher, some like it a little lower - and it often depends on the design and shape of the touchpiece. However, there comes a point where it becomes impractical (and this can be too low as well as too high) - and in the shot on the right you can see that it's clearly way too high.
If your horn arrived like this from new then it's a good chance that it's a cheap horn that's been poorly assembled - but although the operation of the thumb key is likely to be cumbersome, it's also likely that the octave mech has been set up to work with this setup. If, on the other hand, the thumb key never used to be in this position it's pretty much a dead cert that it's been bent - and the most likely cause is careless handling when removing the horn from its case.

Bending the thumb keyThe fix for this, unsurprisingly, is to bend the key back into place - but it's not always as simple as that because if you bend a key at one'll also bend at the other unless you take steps to prevent it so doing. It may also bend any other keys that are linked to it. When you remove the bend, you can't guarantee that you've removed the bend from the other end of the key, nor that you've restored the relationship between any of the parts attached to the key barrel.
In this case we've got the touchpiece at one end and a slotted arm at the other - which connects to a pin on the swivelling mech. As the touchpiece got pulled up, the pin will have resisted the force (if you're lucky) and more or less held the slotted arm in place. When you bend the touchpiece down, you'll be leaving that slotted end pretty much where it ended up...and it may now need adjusting to restore its proper relationship with the touchpiece. And if the swivel pin bent too, you could be in big trouble.

Unbending keys is a really a job for a professional - but if you're in a fix and you can't possibly make things worse, you can try this.
Slide a support under the slotted arm. I'm using a lolly stick, but the thick end of an old reed will do just as well. This'll hold the arm in place and prevent it being pushed down into the body. Now press down carefully but firmly on the touchpiece. Don't go mad, just give it a little push, then remove the support and see where the touchpiece sits now.
Dent under pillarIf it's still too high, give it another push - but keep in mind that you'll be better off leaving it a bit too high than pushing so far down that it's too it's a lot trickier to raise the touchpiece.
It should get you out of trouble...assuming the rest of the mech didn't get pulled out of line.

Incidentally, the cause of this raised touchpiece isn't a bent key - it's a dirty great dent under swivel mech's lower pillar.
It might seem odd pointing it out with a bright red arrow, but when this horn came in for repair the player's complaint was that the octave key was bent up. The dent had to be pointed out before they could see it. And the moral of this little illustration is to look around the general area of the problem, because it may not be what you think it is.

Finally, unexpected movement can also be a result of a springing error or a lost cork when reassembling a mech after cleaning. It's sometimes hard to see how a spring is supposed to be set, or exactly where a piece of cork was (or how thick it was) - which is why I recommended taking photos of the mech at the start of this troubleshooting guide.

Related sections:

Worn mech
Binding mech
Weak, dislodged or broken crook key spring
Regulation buffer/tube missing

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Worn or squashed pad

Octave key padsOctave mech errors due to worn or squashed pads are rare, but there are some cases in which a change in the thickness of the pad can cause leaks. Most mechs will tolerate a little change in pad thickness, but if it becomes too extreme it may lead to a situation where the setup of the mech may result in an overly thin pad being held off its pip.
A visual diagnosis will often be sufficient, but a test with a feeler will provide more certainty. Bear in mind that octave key pads tend to get squashed into a cup shape, and that viewed from side on they might look fine...but if you lift the key and examine the face of the pad you might find it doesn't look quite so good.

Here are four octave key pads in various states of functionality. At the top is a pad in good order. The leather is clean and supple, the face isn't compressed and there's an even dimple where the pad sits on the octave pip.
Next down is a slightly scuffed pad. How it got this way is a mystery, but it may have been down to over-zealous cleaning, or perhaps it's due to wear in the key which allows the pad to move around over the octave pip. There may also be some roughness on the pip. The pad will still work, but it's definitely on its way out and should be changed reasonably soon.
Third down is a split pad. In this instance the central portion of the pad looks to have lost its flexibility (due to the constant cycle of wetting and drying) and has cracked. Repeated operations have hammered away at the brittle leather and parts of it have disappeared completely - leaving the felt core exposed. This pad will still work, but it will be leaking there'll be some loss of tone and response. It should be changed as soon as possible.
The last pad looks intact, but the leather is dry and scuffed - and it's an even bet that the felt core is just as dry and tough, When a pad gets this old and hard it simply can't maintain a decent seal over the octave pip. It probably still just about functions, but needs changing.
Any pads that look ever worse will need changing immediately.

A handy get-you-through-the-gig tip is to wrap an iffy octave key pad in clingfilm. Tear off a small square, place it over the face of the pad then bunch it up over the top of the key cup to hold it in place. This will also work as a quick fix for a pad that's come loose.

See the section on leaking octave key pads for more details.

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Leaking octave key pad

Leaks from octave key pads (assuming they're in good condition) are reasonably rare. More often than not the cause of a leak is down to poor regulation rather than a problem with the seat of the pad.
If you suspect one of the pads is leaking the first thing to do is to visually check the condition of the pad. Does it look clean and fresh? If it's a leather pad, is the skin in good condition, with no splits or frayed areas? If it's a cork or a synthetic pad, does the surface of the pad look even? How does it compare to the examples shown in the section on worn or squashed pads?

Octave pad anglesAs a general rule a well-seated pad relies on a flat key cup that comes directly down onto a level tone hole, but many an octave key pad functions perfectly well even if this ideal can't be achieved. However, there's a limit to how much 'angle' such pads can accommodate, and this can leak to leaks from the front or the rear of the pad. This is especially true of pads that are quite firm...such as those made from cork.

Here are three octave pads. The top one is nice and level, and you can see that it sits evenly on top of the octave key pip.
The middle one is sitting in a cup that's at a slight angle, but it's not so acute as to cause any problems. Provided the pad is set in the cup at a suitable angle it will still present a level face to the octave key pip. Pads set like this are often seen on poorly made mechs - and a better bet would be to either bend the key cup arm so that the cup sits level, or fit a thinner pad.

The lower pad doesn't stand a chance. The angle of the key cup is too acute - and while the rear of the pad is resting on the pip, the front is being held off and is leaking.

Testing the padThat's the theory, at least. In practice it can be almost impossible to spot a leak because the octave key pads and pips are very much smaller than those in the diagrams.
The simple test of the seal of the crook key pad is to place the tenon sleeve (the larger end) of the crook against your lips, place your palm over the cork end to seal it up and blow down the crook (one some crooks you might need to reverse the lip/palm positions due to the keywork). You should feel a very immediate and firm resistance that doesn't fade. You can also try suction - but I tend to feel that suction is of more use for detecting leaks in the soldered joints of the octave key pip and the tenon sleeve.

Keep in mind that if the crook key spring is too weak, the blow test will cause the key to open and the pad to leak, and this issue will need to be corrected (and the suction test will not detect this problem).

It's just about possible to test for a leak using a feeler (typically a thin cigarette paper - silver Rizlas, for example - or some thin cellophane, such as might be found wrapped around a box of chocolates), but it requires a steady hand. You'll need to cut a tapered slice out of the paper, bringing the tip of the feeler to a fine point. The octave key pad is lifted, the feeler placed over the rim of the pip and the pad allowed to fall. The feeler is then drawn out - and the resistance noted. If the pad is doing its job a paper feeler will probably tear (don't forget to remove any bits from underneath the pad) - but if you can pull it out with ease then it probably means you've found a leak.
You have to be careful that the tip of the feeler doesn't bridge the hole in the pip, as this will give a false reading. Looking at the lower of the three examples above, you can see that a feeler so placed would be gripped by the rear of the pad and would show a seal...even though the front of the pad was leaking. It's a delicate job because the top of the octave key pip might only be three or four millimetres across...if that.

This test differs from that used to check that the pad actually comes down at all (perhaps because of crook pulldown). In that test the assumption is made that the pad is seating, and all you're checking for is that there's nothing preventing the pad from doing its job.

Crook key wobbleA loose or wobbly crook can sometimes be a source of a leak because it may allow the octave key pad to come down onto the pip slightly 'off-seat'.
It's pretty rare, given that the key tends to self-centre itself - but excessive free play could cause problems.
To check how much wobble you have on the key, grasp the key cup, lift it up above the key guide (if possible - don't force it) and simply wiggle the key gently from side-to-side. On this key you can see that the wobble allows the key to go as far as the side walls of the guide. The horn works just fine with this amount of wobble, but I'd consider this to be the maximum amount of free play that's allowable. If you can move the key much more than this then it's going to be worth having the action tightened up. I might not necessarily improve the way the horn plays but it'll certainly make the octave mech feel more snappy in use.

It should be noted, though, that most crook keys are pretty crudely designed and built - and because of the amount of punishment they take (particularly when fitting or removing the crook), it seldom takes long before even the slickest setup shows signs of wear. Correcting it is often a fairly major job, particularly on keys where the barrel is fixed to the crook tube and the key fits over it (which you'll find on just about every modern horn).

Tightening the crook key rod screwIt certainly never hurts to check that the rod screw isn't loose though, and this is a simple matter of finding a screwdriver small enough to fit the head of the screw and giving it a clockwise turn. Snug it up firmly...and no more. The threads on the screw are very small, and there's often not a lot of 'meat' on the other side of the key for them to screw into. A drop of oil when you're done will help.

And while you're poking around in the area, try to have a look across the rims of the octave key pips. They should be level - but they aren't always. It might not be so much of an issue with a leather pad (which will be soft enough to take up the unevenness) but a cork pad will really struggle to seat on a warped pip.

If you're still not sure whether the pad is leaking or not, try playing the instrument and have someone press the octave key cups down firmly. If you notice an improvement in the quality of the notes you can produce, this probably means one or other of the pads is leaking.

Assuming you find a leak the solution is to have the pad or pads replaced. This won't cost a great deal - but if the leaks are due to misaligned key cups or warped pips, you'll have to dig a little deeper into your budget.
If the leak is due to a damaged pad you can try wrapping a small piece of clingfilm over the pad (and key cup). This will provide a temporary skin, and should keep you going for a while. It's a simple emergency fix for the crook key pad, but wrapping clingfilm around the body key pad will be a little more difficult, because you may have to make an allowance for the G key foot.

Related sections:

Worn or squashed pad
Weak, dislodged or broken crook key spring

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Octave key pip blocked

This is another octave mech problem that can be quite hard to diagnose, simply because there are no easily visible symptoms. It's also the case that the diagnostic tests for a blocked pip aren't always conclusive.
For example, if you suspect the crook pip is blocked you ought to be able to test it with a simple blow/suction test. Place the palm of one hand over the tube at the corked end, place the other end against your lips, raise the octave key and blow down the tube (or suck). If you meet with a firm resistance it'll be because the pip is blocked.
However, this hardly ever happens - because the pip is only partially blocked. There's enough air getting through to show a 'pass' on the test, but not enough air to allow the pip to vent properly - which results in poor note production and/or air noise (hissing). And testing the body pip in this fashion isn't really possible. However, while cleaning the pips is a bit of a faff, it's not a difficult job - so if you've even the faintest suspicion that they might be blocked, you might just as well clean them.

Blocked octave key pipAs for what might be blocking the pips, it's usually a sludgy build-up of the stuff that gets blown into a horn (saliva, fats, sugars etc.) or it might be some trapped fluff from a pull-through.
Here's an excellent example of the latter. As you can see, there's a build-up of gunk around the rim of the octave key tube. It doesn't extend very far into the tube - in fact it's paper-thin - and it's made up of collected fibres from the cloth that gets pulled though the horn to dry the bore out. Each time the cloth passes by the tube it gets compressed, and fibres catch on the rim's sharp edges. Over time more and more fibres get caught, and eventually you end up with a sort of spider's web over the mouth of the tube. This reduces the working diameter of the tube and results in a loss of tone and reduced stability on the body octave notes (mid D to G). Cleaning this gunk out will yield instant and noticeable improvements.
This shot was taken through the F key tonehole after the key was removed.

If you look very closely you can see that the 'web' sits just a little way in to the tube. This is because pull-throughs have a very limited ability to clean out the toneholes in the bore and tend to push gunk into them - where it collects at a point that's just out of reach of the passing cloth. This is why I tend to recommend 'shove-it' swabs (such as the Padsaver), which do a much better job of scouring the toneholes. Even an occasional use will help - as would poking an old toothbrush down the bore every once in a while and giving the octave pip tube a bit of a brush.

To clean the pips you'll need a pipe cleaner. You can buy these at most tobacconists (if you can find one these days), and they're often sold at craft stores. For preference, get tapered ones - the narrow end will slip inside a pip a little easier than the wider end. I'd also recommend using some sort of fluid. Cigarette lighter fluid is ideal, but failing that you can use a little soapy water.

Cleaning out the crook pipBefore you start, though, it's worth bearing in mind that the part of the pip that's visible on the outside of the horn is only half the story. Most pips also have an internally tapered tube that extends into the bore - which you can see if you peer down the top of the body tube. The length of this tube varies - on some horns it might be almost a centimetre in length, on others it might be no longer than a few millimetres. The body pip tube is nearly always longer than that on the crook pip.

Cleaning the crook pip is pretty easy on most horns - dampen the tip of the pipe cleaner with lighter fluid, lift the key up and carefully insert the pipe cleaner into the pip (you might find access easier if you put a little bend in the pipe cleaner). Give it a turn or two and a good wiggle, then pull it out. If the tip looks dirty, cut it off or use fresh pipe cleaner and repeat the process until it comes out clean.
Cleaning out the body pipIt gets a bit trickier on single-piece sopranos and modern baritones (where it's essentially another body pip) because the key cup won't rise all that far, but it should still be doable. When you're done, seal up one end of the crook and blow through the other while holding the key open, just to blow out any fibres that may have been left behind.

Cleaning out the body pip is a bit trickier as you'll have limited access - unless you fancy removing a few keys. Fortunately the pipe cleaner is quite flexible, and if you bend the end down (about 5mm back) you should be able to slide it beneath the pad and into the pip hole. Hold down the G key and the octave thumb key to raise the pad and very carefully ease the tip of the pipecleaner into the pip. Once it's in the hole you'll be able to ease it in still further. Go carefully though, because you don't want to snag the pad and tear the skin.
As before, give it a bit of a wiggle and then gently pull it out.

Twisted pipecleanerAlternatively, you can go in via the bore - but first you'll need to stiffen up your pipe cleaner.
Bend it almost it half, so that one leg is slightly longer than the other by a centimetre or so. Now grip the pipecleaner at the bend and hold the tip of the short leg against the longer and twist the cleaner up tightly. Finally, bend the remainder of the longer leg at right angles. You should end up with something that looks like this...

Dampen the tip and, as before, hold down the G and octave keys to open the body key pad. Guide the pipecleaner down the bore of the horn and ease the tip into the pip tube.
The extra stiffness of the twisted pipecleaner should help, but you still won't be able to apply that much pressure. Just take it easy, and keep an eye on the top of the pip for the tip of the pipecleaner poking through. It's unlikely it'll get very far, but you want to avoid it touching the pad.
Cleaning the body pip via the boreAs before, give it a bit of a wiggle then pull it out and see whether there's any gunk on it. Repeat as necessary. Blow down the bore as best you can when done to clear out any loose fibres (a tin of 'air duster', as used for cleaning computers, is ideal for this job - and can be used to blow dust off the horn's action).
This technique is also good for cleaning crook pips on modern baritones, where the pip is situated just a little way down from the crook receiver socket.

If you're at all comfortable with removing keys then the whole job can be made a great deal easier by removing the top F key on most horns - and removing the octave mech makes it easier still.

There are other, though rarer, causes of blocked pips. It's not unheard of to find that the pips are blocked up with polishing (buffing) soap. This is most likely to happen on cheap new horns, or those that have been recently buffed (prior to relacquering, for example). It shouldn't happen, but it sometimes does. Buffing soap residue is quite hard and greasy, so it can be quite stubborn when it comes to removing it. Fortunately, cigarette lighter fluid will cut into it like a hot knife through butter - and a little drop applied to a pipe cleaner will see it off in no time at all.

Hard deposits are rather more difficult to deal with. These will be down to the formation of scale (calcium carbonate) - just like the stuff that forms in the bottom of a kettle. It takes a fair while to build up such an encrustation, so it's more likely to be an issue with older horns - and while 'soft' cleaning the pip may help, it won't be long before you run into the same problem again. If you suspect this is the problem you're suffering with, your best bet will be to have the pip cleaned out by your repairer because a certain amount of dismantling of the keywork may be required - though it wouldn't hurt to give your crook a proper clean.

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Body key not closing fully

Failure of the body octave key to close is a relatively rare problem on modern octave mechs because the design defaults to the body key being held down when the mech is at rest. For the most part this problem is likely to be due to damage to the mech after an impact, or perhaps due to corrosion seizing up the component parts. Your first test should be to see whether the mech is moving freely - details of which you'll find in the section on worn or badly made mechs.
Dished octave key padIt can also be quite hard to spot that there's a problem because the downward force of the G key foot tends to compress the pad and squash it over the octave key pip. This forms a dish in the centre of the pad, so that the actual sealing part of the pad is somewhat recessed. When this happens it's possible to find that although the pad looks as though it's sitting snugly on top of the tip, it actually needs to drop down another millimetre or so before a seal is made.
The graphic shows what's happening. On the left the pad is seating firmly down on the pip. On the right the octave key cup is raised slightly, but because the pad is dished it still looks like it's seating over the pip - but the seat is now raised, and the blue line is an invisible gap that would allow air to escape. You can prod and poke the key cup to see whether it moves, but by far the best method of checking the integrity of the seal is to check it with a feeler.

Missing pin key bufferThere are, however, a couple of other likely suspects, of which a missing buffer cork under the pin key is the most common. In theory the loss or thinning of this buffer shouldn't cause any problems on a modern swivelling mech, other than allowing the octave touchpiece to sit higher than normal and producing some noise when the pin key hits the receiver - but if the mech is worn, or perhaps not as well built as it ought to be, it's just possible that the thickness of the pin key buffer will become critical.

Clearly, a missing buffer will need to be replaced - but if you're due on stage in 10 and your friendly neighbourhood horn repairer is nowhere to be seen, a quick fix is to pop a blob of adhesive tack underneath the pin key...with a strip of paper over the top of it to prevent it sticking to the key.
Blu-tack buffer under pin keyIf you have the means to fit a new cork, the adhesive tack trick is helpful in experimenting with the size of buffer required - of which the three important factors are that the pin should not be able to hit the receiver, there should be a gap between the pin and the crook key ring when the mech's at rest and the body key should be able to close fully.

The other suspect is a crook key that's set too open, so that the ring key applies a constant pressure to the pin key when at rest. This would normally result in the crook key being held open, but if the spring on the crook key is set excessively high it might have enough power to overcome the force from the pin...which would mean the crook key closes and forces the body key open. It would also require the pin key buffer to be overly thin and the mech to be badly built. As such this is very rare, but I've seen it happen once or twice.

You're far more likely to come across the body key problem on 'active' vintage mechs, where there's often a pair of levers that control the opening and closing of the two octave key pads - and these levers may be interconnected by yet more levers. The hard part is working out which lever does what, but as a general rule of thumb you're likely to find that there'll be a pair of arms coming off the touchpiece key which control the closing of the two key pads (take a look at the vintage soprano mech photos in the first part of this article). Where each of these arms connect to other keys there should be a small cork or felt buffer installed to prevent metal-on-metal clacking. If these buffers aren't 'balanced' it'll mean that one or other of the octave key pads won't close when it ought to - and in the case of a body key that won't close, it usually means that a buffer has come off or worn down. If this is the problem then you'll need to adjust or replace these buffers - but for a quick fix you can try wrapping some tape around the levers.
It can also be the case that too much buffering is the cause of the problem, especially on vintage/active mechs that rely on the pin key being free to 'float' in mid air. See the sections on bent pin keys and over-thick buffers which goes into more detail about how the body key on active mechs functions.

Related sections:

Leaking octave key pad
Bent crook key
Worn or badly made mech
Over-thick buffer beneath pin key
Bent pin keys

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Octave key pip unsoldered or leaking

This is a very pernicious problem because it's often extremely hard diagnose, mostly because there are rarely any visible pointers.
It's also unexpected, so it tends to be the very last thing players look for - if they even look for it at all.
There are three main reason why a pip fails in this fashion, the most common being that the solder has simply degraded over a long period of time due to Galvanic Corrosion. The second most common reason is that the pip was never properly soldered in the first place - and although this is more likely to be the case on cheap horns, it still happens on quite expensive ones. And lastly there's 'collateral damage'. This usually happens when someone's put a dent removal bar down the horn, and hasn't been too careful to avoid it colliding with the octave key tubes. In such cases it's very likely that the pip's tube will have been damaged as well.

If you're very lucky (or unlucky, I suppose) you might be able to see that the pip is loose. Depending on the design of the pip it might be possible to see that the soldered joint has broken. A failed joint has a very distinct look about it...the surface is lighter than solid solder, and looks rather grainy. You might also see jagged edges. With the aid of a magnifying glass you might also be able to see a clear gap where the tube goes into the body. In extreme cases it's possible for the solder to simply break down over a long period of time (due to a process called selective galvanic corrosion) - and it slowly goes from a state of leaking slightly to being completely loose. Rather amusingly (for me, at least), when combined with a sticking pad it's sometime possible to see the pip lift out of the body when the octave key rises.

If nothing's particularly visible or you're still uncertain, there are a few things you can do to test the integrity of the octave key pips - of which one of the most effective is the time-honoured 'poke it with a stick' method. Yep, this is a bona fide test.
Find a small wooden stick - a pencil is ideal - and with the crook off the body finger an octave G. This will lift the G key foot off the body octave key pad, and although the pad might not rise (because the crook isn't fitted), it won't have any downward force acting upon it. Carefully insert the stick down the bore. You'll see a small tube or protrusion into to the bore around a couple of inches down - this is the body octave pip tube. Position the tip of the stick over the end of the tube and give it a gentle push outwards. If the pip has come unsoldered you'll be able to push the tube out of the body.

Loose octave key pipThe same procedure can be repeated for the crook octave key pip - though on some horns this might be quite difficult (on tenors, for example), and you'll be better off trying to pinch the pip from the outside between your thumb and forefinger and giving it a bit of a tug. The job is a great deal easier if you have reasonable fingernails.

Assuming all is well it just means that neither of the pips have come completely unsoldered - but it still means that they might be partially unsoldered, or that there's a 'micro leak' (a very tiny hole in the solder, usually caused by soldering flux 'blowing out' just at the moment when the solder is setting).
Checking for these problems is rather more difficult.

You can use an air test to check the crook. Place the palm of your hand over the mouthpiece end of the crook so that the tube is sealed. Stretch out a finger and slide it between the octave key pad and the pip so that your finger is sealing the pip (and the key cup is resting on top of your nail). Don't press down too hard, you only want to seal the hole in the pip - if you press much harder you finger might seal the outer circumference of the pip, or cause a partially unsolder pip to seal temporarily.

Place the other end of the crook against your lips and blow hard down the tube. You should feel a firm and consistent resistance. Try sucking too - again, you should feel a firm and consistent vacuum. If you can't maintain a pressure/vacuum then you've probably got a leak - but unless you can positively nail the leak down to coming from the pip you should be aware that it might not be the octave pip that's might be the crook tenon sleeve. Squirt some washing up liquid into a cup of water, mix it up to a froth and splash a little around the pip. Repeat the air test - if there's a leak you should be able to see tiny bubbles forming.

Similar testing for the body octave key is all but impossible, but there's still something you can do - and for this you'll need a tin of cigarette lighter fluid (the stuff you fill petrol lighters with, such as Zippos etc.). Before you get started, ensure the bore of the horn is completely dry. You're going to be looking for sign of moisture leaking into the bore, and the last thing you want is any residual moisture from your last blowing session.
Place the horn down on a flat surface and position it so that the body octave key pip points directly upwards (use cushions/cloths etc. to prop up the horn as necessary). You now need to pop a drop of lighter fluid around the base of the octave key pip - and the best way to do this is to squirt a little of the fluid into a bottle cap, then pick up a drop on a cocktail stick or cotton bud...or even the tip of a pencil.
Once you've got everything ready, clean and completely dry your hands.

Carefully apply the fluid to the base of the pip. Be very careful not to get any fluid onto the octave key pad...where it may find its way down into the tube. If you use too much fluid there's a chance it might run around the body and find its way into the bore via one of the palm key pads (it won't do any harm, it just knackers the test). Now stick a finger down the bore of the horn and try to feel around the base of the octave key tube - then quickly withdraw your finger and see if there's any fluid on it. Give it a sniff - if a tiny drop of lighter fluid made its way through it may have already evaporated, but it will have left a distinctive aroma (this is why you cleaned your hands). You can also make any lighter fluid on your finger more visible by rubbing chalk on it - see the section on other leaks in crook for more details.
If you found nothing, repeat the test a couple of time just to be on the safe side. If, however, you found some lighter fluid on your finger, you've got a leaky pip.

You could, at a pinch, use other solvents - but cigarette lighter fluid won't harm the lacquer/plating and won't damage any pads or corks. It's also remarkably good at finding its way through the tiniest of holes. It's also brilliant at cleaning sticky pads, so it's well worth having a tin of it in the cupboard.

Assuming you've found a leak, what can you do about it?
Well, if a pip has come completely unsoldered you'll have to have it soldered back in place.
If, for some reason, you need to be able to play the horn and you're miles away from a repairer, your best bet will be to carefully prise the pip up and wrap a small 'sausage' of adhesive tack around the tube, before gently pushing the pip back down (really work the tack between your fingers first, to get it nice and tacky). This'll get you out of a tight spot for a while.
I wouldn't advise using anything more permanent - but (and this is strictly for competent DIYers) I can't in all honesty see any reason why an epoxy adhesive will not do a perfectly good job, provided you're able to do a neat and tidy job. JB Weld in particular works extremely well.

For micro leaks and partially unsoldered pips I'd obviously still recommend having them resoldered - but some adhesive tack squished around the base will offer a temporary fix. You could also push a little wax (candle or beeswax) around the base of the pip, and a hot needle will help the wax flow and adhere around the base. Similarly, a drop of nail varnish (very carefully applied) will get you out of trouble.

Related sections:

Other leaks in crook
Other leaks on body

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Other leaks in crook

If you're reading this section it probably means you've read the above section on unsoldered octave key pips, and have found a leak on the crook - and now you're not sure whether its the pip that's leaking...or the air is escaping from somewhere else.

Assuming you've carried out the washing up liquid test and it's shown no leaks around the pip, you can turn your attention to the crook joint, which comprises the receiver or socket and the crook tenon sleeve.
Both of these parts are typically soft soldered on to the body and crook respectively - and either because of a poor soldering job during manufacture or subsequent deterioration of the solder due to selective galvanic corrosion, leaks may develop. In extreme cases the parts may even fall off.
If your crook has developed a leak around the tenon sleeve then it's a fair bet that the receiver joint may be in equally poor condition, so it makes sense to test both parts given that the technique and the tools are the same.

Even a very small leak in this joint can lead to instability in note production - and it's nearly always the transition between top G and A where the instability shows up most. This is precisely why this kind of leak is often misdiagnosed as an octave mech problem.
The proper fix for this is to have the relevant part removed, cleaned and resoldered - but if it's just a cheap horn or an old banger, a drop of judiciously-applied superglue may do just as well. Keep in mind, though, that a small gap in the soldered joint might be only the tip of the iceberg, and the underlying problem may be much worse...and you won't really know until the receiver falls off halfway through a gig. On very cheap horns it's not uncommon to find (once one of the parts has fallen off) that it was only held on by the merest ring of solder around the top of the joint instead of being properly filled.

Dripping lighter fluid onto the receiverLet's start by looking for a leak in the receiver joint. The big problem is finding the leak. You're unlikely to have much luck with shining a torch at the joint and looking for light getting through - and a far better test is to drizzle a little cigarette lighter fluid (naphtha) over the joint and see where it leaks through. A piece of coloured chalk will come in handy too.
There are two stages to this test, the first being the 'sniff' test. Wipe out the receiver with some tissue to clean out any grease, gunk and grime - and to make sure it's completely dry. Prep your tin of lighter fluid by opening the nozzle. Now wash your hands, taking care to rinse off as much of the scent of your soap as possible and any contamination from opening the lighter fluid nozzle.
Sit yourself down and place the horn horizontally over your knee in such a position that the slot beneath the crook clamp screw is facing upwards. This prevents any excess fluid from spilling over the surface of the receiver and seeping through the slot into the bore...which would skew the test. Now tilt the receiver end down slightly.
Dribble a few drops of lighter fluid onto the joint, being careful not to splash it onto the receiver itself - and being even more careful not to get any on your hands. It will run around the joint quite freely.
Now stick a finger inside the receiver, feel for the joint and quickly run your finger around it...withdraw it and give it a good sniff. If there's a leak in the joint, lighter fluid will have made its way through and you'll smell it on your finger. If the leak is large enough you may even see some fluid on your finger...but a small leak will allow so little fluid through that it will evaporate on your finger almost immediately. But it will leave an aroma behind for a bit longer...hence the sniff test.

Using chalk to highlight a leakBut what's the chalk for? Well, chalk will readily soak up lighter fluid - so if you coat your fingertip with chalk it'll show any fluid contamination far more clearly than on bare skin...and the chalk will slow the evaporation process. I find blue chalk seems to work best, and you can clearly see the difference between the part of my finger that's dry and the darker part that's contaminated with the lighter fluid.

If the test proves positive you'll now have to locate the leak. Dry the socket out again, and wipe over the exterior. It'll need to be completely dry - so either leave it a while or play a hair dryer over it for a minute or so.
Chalk on receiver jointNow repeat the drizzling...but this time you only want a drop or so - just enough to seep through the leak and not to flood the inside of the receiver. Shine a light into the receiver and you should be able to spot a dark patch where the fluid has seeped through. You can make use of the chalk again though - but this time you need to break a bit of and pummel it into dust. Dip your fingertip into it then rub it against the joint at the bottom of the receiver. Repeat until you've got a line of chalk all the way around the joint. Apply the fluid to the exterior, and any that seeps through will show up clearly in the area where the chalk has soaked it up.

If you now inspect the exterior of the joint there's a very good chance that you'll see either a break in the solder joint around the receiver or a suspiciously dark area that looks like it might be a gap in the joint. Don't forget to clean the chalk up when you're finished - it should brush/wipe away easily.
Temporary fixes? Well, as just mentioned, a drop of superglue will seal the hole - but it can be a messy fix. If it's a nice horn, a piece of tape will serve as a short-term fix until you have have it repaired properly, as will rubbing some candle wax or beeswax into the hole.

Such leaks are, fortunately, quite rare - but there's a far more common source of leaks from the receiver...namely a loose crook.
A loose crook or neck can cause all manner of problems. The most common problem is a loss of tone - the horn seems less vibrant, less clear and stuffier to blow. Generally speaking, when the crook locking screw is tightened up hand tight (you should never have to force this screw) the crook should be held quite snugly and barely move (if at all).
I tend to advocate a little bit of slippage - if you happen to have the horn knocked while you're playing it, a bit of give on the crook might well save your teeth - but it should be noted that this movement must only be confined to the side-to-side plane. If you're able to rock the crook up and down then you really do have a problem.
Cracked receiverThe cause of loose crooks is usually down to the tenon socket stretching with age or use - but excessive tightening of the crook screw in order to overcome a bit of looseness will eventually make things worse. It leads to the receiver becoming tapered (tighter at the top than it is at the bottom), and air can rise up through the gap at the bottom of the joint and exit at the screw slot. In more severe cases the metal around the bottom of the slot may crack.
This is very bad news indeed - but as with most problems on a horn it's fixable...if you throw enough money at it. The cheapest fix is to have a patch soldered over the crack. The next cheapest fix is to have the receiver removed and the crack filled with silver (hard) solder - and the most costly option is to have the receiver replaced...which may required building a new one.
If you spot a crack early enough it's possible to stop it in its tracks by eliminating the source of the stress that's causing it, and by either elongating the slot into the crack or drilling a small round hole at its base to help prevent the crack from propagating further.

Another common cause loose crooks is a stiff crook screw. This mechanism often gets wet - and when water mixes with brass it often lead to the formation of a blueish/white deposit. This stuff is quite gritty, and it'll hamper the operation of the screw. The fix is easy - simply remove the screw, clean it (and the sockets) with a pipe cleaner soaked in a little lighter fluid, then pop a drop of grease or oil on the screw before refitting it. Tighten the screw up without the crook in place (not something I generally recommend), and when it starts to lock up give it just a half turn more (but don't force it)...then back it off. Fit the crook and tighten up the screw.

An easy way to test if your receiver is causing a tonal dropoff is to smear the crook tenon sleeve with a generous dollop of cork grease (Vaseline will do in this instance). Fit the crook and work the grease in by rotating the crook back and forth. Tighten up the crook screw (don't overtighten though - with the tenon greased it's unlikely that the clamp will be able to lock the crook tight) and give the horn a blow. The grease acts as a temporary seal, and if you notice a significant improvement in tone or stability then you'll need to have the crook joint properly tightened. Remember to wipe the grease off afterwards.

The proper fix is to have the crook tenon sleeve expanded and refitted to the socket, which is a time-consuming and messy job (the tenon sleeve may have to be lapped to fit the receiver), so it tends not to be cheap. It is, however, the sort of job you might only need once or twice in the life of a horn...and the resultant improvement in tone and stability more than makes up for the cost.
A cheaper fix (AKA a bodge) is to grind a little of the screw socket cheeks away so that the screw can pinch up more metal. It often works, but it places yet more strain on the screw slot and increases the chances of the receiver cracking.

The Conn MicrotunerTo test the tenon sleeve joint you can use the technique described above - hold the crook so the tenon sleeve is only very slightly pointing down from horizontal, apply a few drops of lighter fluid to the joint then use your finger inside the bore to catch any fluid that might have leaked through.
Alternatively, because you're able to seal one end of the tube off and blow into the other you can also use the suds test as described in the section on unsoldered octave key pips.

As to fixes - well, as already mentioned you can seal up a small leak with a drop of superglue...though I must reiterate that unless you know for sure that the problem is a small leak and not a major breakdown of the solder (or indeed a lack of it), you could find that the joint fails while you're playing the horn and the crook hits the deck. This would be extremely bad news for your wallet.
Another temporary (and potentially less messy) fix is to wrap some plumber's tape (PTFE tape) around the outside of the joint. You can even melt a little candle wax around the joint with the aid of a hairdryer (or a small gas gun, if you're careful).

Leaks from elsewhere on the crook are very uncommon, but not unknown. Major culprits are leaks due to cracked tubing (typically on older horns that have had numerous repairs made to dented/crushed crooks, leaks from corroded tube seams (typically on the underside of the tube, and nearly always just after the crook cork - and leaks via the cork itself, due to air gaps beneath the that air blown in through the mouthpiece can slip under the cork and escape out the other end. Each of these leaks will require fixing properly, but plumber's tape or adhesive tack will provide temporary solutions.

If you own a horn with a double-sleeved tenon or a tuning attachment (Microtuner), it adds a whole 'nother layer of complexity to the affair. Both of these require specialist knowledge to deal with them appropriately - particularly when it comes to diagnosing problems and deciding on solutions. You can certainly use some of the techniques described here (with some adaptation) to test them, but I really wouldn't advise attempting any home fixes.

Cork sheetsThe mouthpiece cork can be an occasional source of problems.
Its job is to hold the mouthpiece firmly in the desired position and to seal against any air that wants to escape (rather than go down the bore of the horn). The cork should be in good condition, and supple enough to still hold the mouthpiece securely when moved a moderate distance from the ideal position (typically three-quarters of the way onto the cork - see embouchure/mouthpiece issues). If the cork is chipped, cracked or not very tolerant of different mouthpiece positions, it's probably time to have it replaced. It's a beer money job - and it'll save you the indignity of having to use things like plumber's tape (as seen on the cork above right) to hide the shame of a knackered and worn-out cork.

The quality of the cork may have bearing on the efficacy of the seal; if it's particularly grainy or pitted, there's a chance (admittedly small) that air may 'track' its way through these imperfections and leak out of the rear of the cork.
A lot of cheap cork sheet can be shot full of holes too - and while these probably don't present much of a risk of leakage in themselves, they nonetheless allow moisture to get beneath the cork...and over time that may lead to failure of the adhesive

Mouthpiece cork jointsAnother way air can track through a mouthpiece cork is by going underneath it. It's exceptionally rare, but it does happen. It's due the cork being poorly glued to the crook. Air enters at the tip of the crook, channels beneath the cork and exits at the other end. It's quite hard to test for, but it you pop your mouthpiece on, brush some suds over the end of the piece and the cork and then blow the horn while someone else watches the end of the cork, it may be possible to see bubbles forming.

And, finally, there's the wonderfully-named butt joint leak.
This is down to how the mouthpiece cork was fitted. Standard practice is to use a lap joint (left, figure A), which increases the surface area where the two end of the cork sheet meet and are glued together - but some repairers (and manufacturers) use a butt joint (left, figure B). There's nothing wrong with a butt joint, but great care must be taken to ensure that the joint is fully closed all the way along its length.
Figure C shows what happens when a butt joint is incorrectly formed. It's rather exaggerated but you can see that because the ends of the cork sheet aren't square, gaps have formed above and below the joint.
Mouthpiece cork surface jointIt'd have to be a particularly half-arsed job to leave the cork like this, and it's far more common to find either a leak above or below the joint rather than both - and you can't rely on the glue to fill such a large gap.

How can you tell which joint has been used?
Have a look around the surface of the cork. You're looking for a line that extends from the front of the cork (at the tip of the crook) to the rear. If a lap joint has been used you'll typically see a wavy line - and a butt joint will show a more or less straight one.

An even better indication is to look at the rear face of the cork (you might need the assistance of a magnifying glass).
Mouthpiece cork rear joint lineA lap joint, as shown here, presents a clearly sloped line. This is quite a generous lap, and you may well see a far shorter line at a much steeper angle. If the angle gets too steep the joint becomes less of a lap joint and more of an angled butt joint - and a proper butt joint will show a vertical line.

If you spot any gaps it could well mean the cork is leaking, or is likely to leak at some point, so it would make sense to have it replaced.
For a quick fix, however, you could melt a little wax into the gaps. I'm not going to recommend attempting to glue up any gaps at the rear of the cork on the basis that it could get very messy and damage the finish on the crook - but gaps at the front end are a very different matter.
Not only can they let air under the cork, they'll let moisture in too - and that can lead to lots of problems over a period of time. You could just fill the gap with some wax, but as this part of the cork takes a lot of punishment it's unlikely to last very long. I also doubt you'll have much luck with conventional glues because there's likely to be a lot of grime tucked inside the gap (cork grease etc.).

Lifted mouthpiece corkSuperglue is really the only way to go, and I very strongly recommend one of the gel types. You can give yourself a fighting chance by cleaning the end of the cork with a drop of lighter fluid on a soft brush. Be gentle or you might simply rip the cork off, and give it ten minutes or so to dry out. Now very carefully wipe a little cork grease over the surface of the front end of the cork. Wipe it on gently, don't force it into the cork. This will help prevent any glue that oozes out from sticking to your fingers, and lessen the chances of your ripping the cork away.

Poking the glue under the corkYou'll need something to poke the glue in under the cork. A pin will do, but a better bet is a cocktail stick with the pointed end cut off and the end of the stick shaved to a flat to form a small spatula. Pop a blob of glue on the end of it and tease it into the gap. Work it around so that you cover as much of the surface area beneath the cork as possible. Gel superglue tends to set less quickly than the fluid kind, so you'll have a little working time. Once you've got some glue in the gap, press the cork firmly down to close the gap up. Hold it down for a minute or so (or longer, if you have the patience). Repeat as necessary for as many gaps as you have.

It's unlikely to matter that much if you make a bit of a mess at this end of the usually looks a bit tatty anyway.
If you're tempted to use this fix at the other end of the cork, do yourself (and your horn) a favour and wrap a bit of masking tape around where the end of the cork sits on the crook tube. As an extra belt-and-braces measure you can pick up a tube of superglue remover when you're buying the superglue. It's handy stuff, works a treat, and a tube of it will last you for years.

Related sections:

Octave key pip unsoldered or leaking
Embouchure/mouthpiece issues

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Embouchure/mouthpiece issues

Well, I'm guessing this is not the place you wanted to be - but take heart, half the battle of sorting out a problem is knowing what the problem is...and as it looks like you're the problem, there are things you can do to improve your playing skills and develop your embouchure (pronounced 'ombowshure').
There is one 'getout' though, and that's your mouthpiece. If you're playing on a duff piece you're likely to run into all sorts of unexpected problems - many, if not all, of which can be solved by buying a better mouthpiece - though it's always worth bearing in mind that just because you paid a lot of money for a mouthpiece, it doesn't mean it really suits you.

Reeds can be a factor too. A bad reed can cause a lot of problems. Changing it is a good bet, but you can't assume that the next reed out of the box won't also be bad. Try a different strength; too soft or hard a reed can lead to unpredictable results.

Mouthpiece positionMouthpiece matching may be a problem. This is usually more of an issue on vintage horns. Putting a bright, high-baffled modern piece on a horn that was built in the 1930s is asking for trouble. It's not that it can't be done - it's just that it takes a lot of practice to make it work. It's also the case that 'extreme' pieces (very bright or very dark) can be quite challenging even on a modern horn, and I'm often surprised at how many new players have been suckered in to buying entirely unsuitable pieces.

Mouthpiece position is critical. As a very general rule of thumb, a mouthpiece should be pushed about three quarters of the way onto the mouthpiece cork. This is the 'sweet spot' - it's where the good people who designed your horn expect your mouthpiece to be so that (in very simplistic terms) all the acoustics line up. If you stray out of this area by more than about 5mm either way, the horn becomes more and more unstable in terms of internal tuning (the tuning between individual notes) note production. The red line in the photo shows where the end of your mouthpiece should sit - at least as rough starting point.
The smaller the horn, the more critical the placement of the mouthpiece will be.

And then there's you - or rather your embouchure.
You can give someone the most perfectly-built horn and the most easy-blowing mouthpiece fitted with the best reed in the world...but it still won't guarantee that they'll be able to play a clean note. The sax is fairly forgiving, but there are still some hurdles to overcome. Middle D is a notoriously weak note, and the break-point between octave G (the highest note that uses the body octave key pip) and octave A (the lowest note that uses the crook key pip) can be difficult to make cleanly.
Lots of long note practice will help - it's the sax player's equivalent of weight training. It strengthens and tones the muscles and gives you more control over the notes. There are plenty of websites out there with all sorts of hints, tips and advice about technique - and one I particularly recommend is Pete Thomas' site.

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Problem with additional links to octave mech

On most horns the octave mech concerns itself only with opening the body octave key (of which there may sometimes be a pair) and the crook octave key.
However, some horns have additional keys which link to the mech, of which the C# link is the most common. This link closes the auxiliary B key when an octave C# is played, and is used to tame a tendency for this note to play quite sharp. It's very often found on sopranos and one or two altos but is rarer on the larger horns. It's often thought to be a modern invention, but in fact it can be found on a number of vintage horns (there's seldom anything new - just variations on a theme or 'reinventions' of long-forgotten patents). As you might imagine, such additional linkages add another layer of complexity to the octave mech and can throw your troubleshooting efforts into disarray if you don't have a clear understanding of what these links do and how they do it.

C# link from octave mechHere's a C# link on a soprano - I've removed a few keys so that we can get a better look at it.
There's an additional key arm attached to the lower part of the swivel mech. When the octave key is pressed down, this arm will rise - and when the octave key is released it will fall. As there's no official name for this arm we'll simply call it the primary C# arm. It sits beneath another arm coming off the rear of the Auxiliary B key - which we'll call the secondary C# arm. As the primary arm rises it lifts the secondary arm - which closes the Aux.B pad (seen on the lower right).
Note the hole in the centre of the pad. The Aux.B key is sometimes 'split' into two keys - a lower key cup with a doughnut-shaped pad in it and an upper key with a very small pad which closes down over the small centre hole in the lower pad. It's only this lower part of the Aux.B key that is moved by the C# link.

There are three ways in which this link can cause problems, the first of which is that the primary arm doesn't rise far enough to close the Aux.B pad.
This isn't a major problem insomuch as it will only affect the clarity and tuning of the octave C# - and not the functionality of the octave mech.
The second mode of failure is that the primary arm is unable to rise far enough because it has already closed the Aux.B pad before the octave key has been fully depressed. In effect this limits the throw of the mech, which may in turn mean that neither the body or crook key cups are able to rise fully. This can lead to hissing and instability. The technical terms for this is 'holding off', which describes how one key prevents another from fully opening or closing.
And the third mode of failure is that the primary C# arm doesn't fall far enough to allow the Aux.B pad to open fully. On its own it doesn't affect the operation of the octave mech - but it will throw out the regulation of the horn's upper stack (the A, B and C keys), which leads to a clunky feel and may also affect the tuning of the lower C#.
However, it's often the case that this mode of failure is responsible for the second mode (and vice versa).

There are a few ways you can check the mechanism. The first is to check the operation of the thumb key, and that it can be pressed all the way down.
If you look on the underside of the key you'll see one or two buffers. There's often one directly below the touchpiece - and another one may be located beneath the forked arm at the other end of the key (you can see it in the shot above, immediately below the red shaded primary arm). You should have at least one of these buffers, and possibly both. Press the touchpiece down and check whether any of the buffers touch the body tube. If they don't it means that something is preventing them from doing so - and it may well be because the primary arm is being held off...though it may well also be because of other problems within the octave mech (told you it was complicated).
Take a peek at the Aux.B key pad - it should be fully closed.

Lifting the octave keyAssuming all is well, release the octave key - and now (very) gently lift the touchpiece up. Not by only needs to move a millimetre or so. Look at the point where the primary C# arm meets the secondary. As you lift the octave key, the primary arm should fall...but the secondary arm should stay put. This will show up as a gap appearing between the two arms. It won't be much (hopefully), but even the smallest gap tells you that the upper stack action is correctly balanced with the octave mech.
If no gap appears it'll mean the Aux.B key is being held off by the primary arm and you'll have a spot of double-action in the upper stack.

Testing the C# linkNow finger a G. The secondary C# arm will rise. Place a cigarette paper feeler under it, then press the octave key down. As the octave key closes, the primary arm should pinch the feeler paper. Look again at those buffers beneath the octave key - they should be touching the body. When this linkage is set right you should be able to press the octave key down very, very lightly and just about be able to pull the feeler out. As you press the octave key down a little more firmly you should feel the grip on the feeler increasing. If the feeler is fully gripped before the octave key touches the body it means it's being held off...and you may not be getting full opening on the body or crook pads.

If you find any problems I'm going to recommend that you avoid trying to fix them, simply because it's likely to get very complicated very quickly. This is especially true of cheap sopranos (where this mech is commonly found) because there are other factors in play - such as the mechanism being poorly built in the first place, and the possibility that it was never set up to work properly from new. More often than not such mechs have to be set up using the 'That'll have to do' principle, simply because it's the only way to get the damned things to work.

Adjustable C# linkAbout the only thing that's relatively easy to fix is that of the primary arm not rising high enough to close the Aux.B pad - and in most cases this'll be down to a need for a thicker buffer between the primary and secondary arms. You can see on the examples above that the buffer is a clear plastic tube...and it's not uncommon for these to fall off. On some horns there's an adjustable pin on either the primary or secondary arms. By moving this pin up or down the arm you can adjust the relationship between the two arms using the checks as described above to find the 'sweet spot'. However - on cheap horns this adjuster is usually very poorly made...and even more poorly fitted - and attempting to move it often results in something breaking (usually the screw that holds the adjuster on) or the fork arms splaying out when you try to tighten the screw up.
The best that you can do is check that the screw isn't loose (just give it a bit of a pinch up with a screwdriver...and I mean just a bit) and otherwise leave well alone.

On horns with even more complex additional links (such as altissimo octave key cups etc.) the recommendation to leave well alone and let a professional deal with it is even stronger.

Related sections:

Body/crook key not rising enough (hissing)

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Other leaks on body

Well, the good news is that your octave key mech seems to be working. The bad news is that your problems are more likely to be down to leaks elsewhere on your sax, which are really beyond the focus of this article. Such leaks often present themselves as octave key problems because they're more noticeable in certain group of notes.
You might, say, have no problems getting a low G - but when you try for an octave G, the note fails (or vice versa)...and it's therefore easy to deduce that the octave mech is at fault.

And it might be - but it might not be the only problem. Leaks tend to be either catastrophic (such as a pad falling out, stopping the horn dead in its tracks) or cumulative (the horn gets less responsive the lower you play).
Your dodgy octave G might be down to a small leak on, say, the A key pad - and while on its own this might not have much effect on your octave G, another small leak on your octave key mech may well be all that's needed to push the note into instability. Fix either one of the problems and the G works again. Fixing both problems, of course, would be the best bet.

Assuming you've carried out the tests for checking for structural leaks on the crook, the next step is to check the pads from top to bottom - and details of how do this can be found here.

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Noisy mech

A noisy mech is usually just a nuisance rather than a show-stopper, but it's often a sign that there's a problem. Most of the noise will be down to metal hitting metal - and this'll either be because a buffer has worn or fallen off or there's simply no lubrication on the mech.
Checking for a missing buffer is reasonably easy - just work the mech slowly, noting where each part rises and falls, and look at the various point where either one key contacts another, or where part of a key contacts the body. In almost every case there should be some means of preventing one piece of metal colliding with another. Inspect thin buffers carefully as it's quite possible that they may have worn through and there's now a 'bald patch' that's allowing metal-to-metal contact. If in doubt, stick a piece of paper or masking tape under the key to see whether it stops the noise.

Some care is required when dealing with vintage mechs because certain keys may look as though they ought to have some buffering fitted to them when in fact they rely on a certain amount of clearance. As a very general rule-of-thumb, the places where keys connect to each other will need to be buffered - but where keys look as though they may contact the body tube there may be a need for a certain amount of clearance beneath them, and any buffering present may only be there to prevent clanking on the odd occasion that the key bounces. If in any doubt, use the paper/masking tape trick to see how it affects the functionality of the mech.

If all looks to be in order then it's a fair bet that all your mech needs is some lubrication, and for the most part this is going to be key oil. For an in-depth overview of oiling the keys, check out the article on Oiling the Action.

High Tack Silicone GreaseThat said, you might spot some areas where there's obviously metal-to-metal contact - but no practical means of fitting a buffer between the parts. A very good example of this is the swivel pin used on Selmer style mechs. Unless the swivel has been factory built with buffers (usually small tubes) fitted or subsequently modded to accommodate them, there will be metal-to-metal contact at each end of the swivel bar and in the centre, where the bar pivots. You can certainly pop a drop of oil on these contact points, and it'll go quite some way to quietening things down - but the swivel ends will do better with a drop of grease.
Just about any grease will do, but the best bet is thick silicone grease. This will tend to stay put rather longer than standard grease. MusicMedic's 'Ultimax Pivot and Roller Lubricant' is excellent for the job, and I find that bog-standard High Tack (or HT) silicone grease will do nicely too and is readily available (plumbing stores, hobby shops, eBay etc.). High tack simply means it stays in place rather better than standard silicone grease, which tends to slowly dribble away from the joint.
The hardest part is getting the stuff in without dismantling the mech (and trust me on this, you really don't want to do that if you can help it) - but if you pop a blob near the offending joint and use a finger or an old reed to force it into the gaps, it should work just fine. Just make sure you wipe off any excess afterwards.

Another source of noise could be hardened buffers. Cork can go quite hard over the years, and felt can absorb moisture...which dries out and hardens it over time. Plastic tubes are notoriously noisy from the off, but even these can harden eventually. In such cases the only remedy is to have them replaced.

Related sections:

Regulation buffer/tube missing

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User error/Other

Burn it! Burn it with fire!As for 'other' - as you can see by the sheer size of this article there's an awful lot that can go wrong with an octave mech, and no matter how many issues I've covered there's always room for more. For example - is there a dent near the mech that might have pulled one of the pillars out of alignment? Has a bit of superglue (commonly used on cheap horns to disguise excess play in the keywork) got into the mechanism? Have you recently lost an earring? Maybe it fell into the mech and jammed it up (seen that one).
With a bit of luck, this article will cover around 90% of the problems you're likely to encounter - and as I said at the start, even if you can't work out what's wrong, you can at least narrow the field down a little...and if all else fails you can give your repairer a call.

All of this assumes, of course, that your diagnosis of the octave key mech was up to scratch. If you've read through all the relevant sections and done all the checks then it's fair to say you've given it your best shot - but that doesn't mean you didn't miss something. It happens, and because octave key mechs can be notoriously fickle, there's no shame in it. If in doubt, get a repairer to check it out - or get a more experienced player to blow your horn to see if they have the same problems.


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